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Chromebook better than a PC?

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    On a windows computer, I would not go less than 2GB just in general. 4GB is usually the standard minimum these days.

    You asked above if 2GB would be enough to torrent 3 movies and 3 music albums, which is not a hard task as all. All of the tasks you mention are very basic in general.

    The architecture and the load on all those types of computers is different.

    • On a chromebook, you don't need as much RAM because the OS is very lightweight and doesn't do much local processing at all. Everything is cloud based.
    • On a Mac, it's like a PC and you have software loaded locally. I purchased a Mac earlier this year and went with 8GB, not really because I needed it, but because you cannot upgrade a MacBook Pro..so you have to get it with what you want on it. 8GB is more than enough, and should hold me for a few years.
    • On a Windows computer, 4GB is fine for basic computing. Even for gaming 4GB is fine, but most will step to 8GB because it's pretty cheap. More than 8GB is pretty much unnecessary unless you are going to be running virtual machines, and need them running concurrently.
    Very interesting.

    So in short based on the multiple I will be doing (on occasions but not always) is the 2GB RAM on a Chromebook enough for me?

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  2. #12


    Pittsburgh
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    Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 Bit


    3 movies and 3 albums at the same time, depends on the size of the movie. Is that a blu-ray (single layer 25GB, dual layer (industry standard) 50GB, triple layer 100GB, or quadruple layer 128GB) movie or a DVD (4.7GB) movie?

    The movies will use up most or all of the chrome book memory.

    Keep in mind the chrome book spec is 2 GB DDR3, and 16 GB of SDD, and 100GB on the cloud.
    If the download speed is 92Mbps and the upload speed is 11Mbps, the bottle neck will be on the upload to the cloud unless you get an external drive for the chrome book.

    USB 2.0 transfer speed is 480Mbps, and USB 3.0 transfer speed is 4.8Gbps. This speed is for comparison only, speed may vary by the speed of the system's bus. Investigate the speed of the chromebook USB ports for the specific brand you intend to buy.

    On a windows machine the hard drive would be tortured by writing 6 fragmented files to the drive, unless the torrent software pre-allocates the full movie or album size in one block.
    Last edited by JHough; 02 May 2014 at 20:08. Reason: Added "of the"
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by JHough View Post
    The movies will use up most or all of the chrome book memory.
    I think you mean storage, or hard drive space...not memory. Memory is RAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by JHough View Post
    On a windows machine the hard drive would be tortured by writing 6 fragmented files to the drive, unless the torrent software pre-allocates the full movie or album size in one block.
    Huh??? I have no idea what you are saying.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 40
    Windows 8.1


    A torrent movie for me means a "standard" 1-2.5GB of an 1080p MP4 film. A standard MP3 320k album would mean anything from 100-500MB I think. So, 3 movies & 3 albums plus some other non-intensive multitasking....2GB RAM is enough?

    I'm not too worried about the memory as I have an SD card to put them. My SD card is a 32GB Class 10 with 40mb/sec speeds. I'm also in the process of getting a 1TB portable hard drive so the cloud is just another "secondary option". Upload i'm not worried as my provider offers really good DL/UL speeds anyway.
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  5. #15


    Pittsburgh
    Posts : 103
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 Bit

    File Fragmentation and Affects of Disk Size.


    In response to:
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JHough View Post
    The movies will use up most or all of the chrome book memory.
    I think you mean storage, or hard drive space...not memory. Memory is RAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by JHough View Post
    On a windows machine the hard drive would be tortured by writing 6 fragmented files to the drive, unless the torrent software pre-allocates the full movie or album size in one block.
    Huh??? I have no idea what you are saying.

    If the software preallocated disk space for all 6 files, the disk drive file allocation would look like, where the numbers 1-6 correspond to the 6 different files.
    |11111111111|
    |22222222222|
    |33333333333|
    |44444444444|
    |55555555555|
    |66666666666|

    While writing the files to a hard disk drive, the heads move back and forth between each file. When reading the file, the heads would continuously read each file. If the drive is a Solid State Drive (SSD), there are no heads to move around.

    If the files are written as the data arrives, the disk drive file allocation may look like.
    |123456123456123456123456123456123456123456123456123456123456|
    When reading the files from a hard disk drive the heads will move back and forth between each file.

    If each file is 2GB, that's 12GB that the heads need to move back and forth on. On a drive with 689GB, that is traversing 1.7% of the disk, so the fragmentation is not a severe affect. However, if the drive is only 60GB, 20% of the disk the would need traversed.

    Fragmentation was a bigger concern when the drives had less capacity. File:Hard drive capacity over time.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is a history of hard drive size. When the drive capacity was smaller, defragmentation would sometimes save 10%-20% time on a minute operation.
    Last edited by JHough; 04 May 2014 at 18:20. Reason: Added questioner's quote.
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