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Why no Backup and Restore section? Relevant question.

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    Why no Backup and Restore section? Relevant question.


    I've always preferred separating my data from the OS and do not intend to change my ways despite OS manufacturer's wishes. Just pondering the advisability of creating a data partition (or partitions) from the existing C: partition - i.e. affects on any of the various restore options. I intend to use Macrium Reflect imaging to the Data partition and then backing this up to a USB drive - have used this successfully before on a Dell. Will the boot CD (PE) created on another laptop (Dell with W7 Prof) work on this system or will I have to create another CD. The CD works OK on the Dell. Don't intend to use any other restore options (if available) if I can get Macrium to work and I would leave all the other existing partitions alone. The Lenovo was bought with 8.0 installed and I inadvertently upgraded to 8.1 through the store I think before I knew of any possible problems that I could encounter - and all the additional partitions. I've installed Classic Shell as I prefer the older ways.

    If I recall correctly, I should be able to bring the C: partition down to about 60 - 80 GB by switching off Restore, Hibernation and the Pagefile - using Defraggler and Disk Management - which worked fine on the Dell. Initially it only allowed about half reduction until I switched off Restore I think.

    Any comments will be appreciated along with your experiences of doing this. Disk Management image included.

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    Why no Backup and Restore section?
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    Do this.

    1. Disable hibernation - How to turn hibernate completely off?

    2. Change your page file to zero

    3. Make a custom refresh point Refresh Windows 8 - Set a Custom Recovery Image as Active

    4. change your page file back to system defined.

    5. re-enable hibernation (if you want to)

    My CustomRefresh.wim (windows + Office and a few small programs) is a bit less than 7GB. My C:\Windows is 9.2 GB.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Why no Backup and Restore section?
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    Thank you but I meant why is there no Backup and Restore section on this forum as there is over on the Win 7 forum. I realise some would like us to backup all our information to Skydrive etc. but presumably we still do have free speech and freedom of choice. Is this why there is no such section - to 'persuade' us to use such services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Do this.

    1. Disable hibernation - How to turn hibernate completely off?

    2. Change your page file to zero

    3. Make a custom refresh point Refresh Windows 8 - Set a Custom Recovery Image as Active

    4. change your page file back to system defined.

    5. re-enable hibernation (if you want to)

    My CustomRefresh.wim (windows + Office and a few small programs) is a bit less than 7GB. My C:\Windows is 9.2 GB.

    Hope this helps.
    Thank you. I am intent on using Macrium Reflect for backup purposes. So I would be grateful if you stuck to this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by off piste View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Why no Backup and Restore section?
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    Thank you but I meant why is there no Backup and Restore section on this forum as there is over on the Win 7 forum. I realise some would like us to backup all our information to Skydrive etc. but presumably we still do have free speech and freedom of choice. Is this why there is no such section - to 'persuade' us to use such services.
    We just opted to include it under "Performance and Maintenance" instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by off piste View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Thank you but I meant why is there no Backup and Restore section on this forum as there is over on the Win 7 forum. I realise some would like us to backup all our information to Skydrive etc. but presumably we still do have free speech and freedom of choice. Is this why there is no such section - to 'persuade' us to use such services.
    We just opted to include it under "Performance and Maintenance" instead.
    No evil intent then.
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    All sorted. I forgot about the $MFT file but it still allowed me to partition as I wanted. There was some info on the Macrium website concerning CDs created on different machines so I made a new one anyway. Perhaps I'll get around to using USBs one day!

    Thanks all.
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    Yep, a cheap pack of 4GB USB flash drives will just make your day when you see how much faster they are compared to DVDs.
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    If you format a 32 or 64 GB usb as NTFS instead of FAT 32 you get one big image file rather than a bunch of 4GB files.
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