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Recovery not working

  1. #11


    Posts : 10
    Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yes, piece of cake.

    If your recovery sequence is working, you can just run this from within windows and it is done for you :

    For 64 bit https://www.dropbox.com/s/802hgbocdafdhd2/RE64v7.zip

    For 32 bit https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubak5ssng7ozipb/RE86v7.zip

    1. Extract the zip file. You will see a .cmd file and a BIN folder.

    2. Copy the matching bit version gimagex into BIN\X64-or-x86\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32

    3. Rt click and run as admin on the re64-or-86v7-runmeasadmin.cmd.

    Attachment 39499

    Tools already in there for you to do other steps if needed.

    You don't need to thibnk about it, they will be there on the menu.
    So I just run it from my current Windows installation ??

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  2. #12


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Yes. It will create winpe from what you already have on your HD. If your recovery sequence is badly broken, it might not be able to. Give it a go.

    If you already know where winre.wim is, you can avoid that possibility by copying it into the same folder, directly next to the .cmd file . Then run the .cmd file. It looks there for winre.wim first.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit


    Gives this error
    Click image for larger version

    Can I set that copied WIM as current recovery image by recimg and then try your program ???
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  4. #14


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Yes, unknown. Your recov sequence is borked. Common problem.

    You can try and reset it manually.

    Elevated cmd prompt:

    reagentc /disable

    reagentc /enable

    reagentc /info


    If that appears ok, then run the cmd file again.

    We are not looking for the huge install.wim,. We are looking for a much smaller file called winre.wim.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 10
    Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yes, unknown. Your recov sequence is borked. Common problem.

    You can try and reset it manually.

    Elevated cmd prompt:

    reagentc /disable

    reagentc /enable

    reagentc /info


    If that appears ok, then run the cmd file again.

    We are not looking for the huge install.wim,. We are looking for a much smaller file called winre.wim.
    Nope it doesnt seem alright.
    Click image for larger version

    I copied that wim file to
    Click image for larger version
    and renamed it winre.wim. Can I run the program now??
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  6. #16


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    NO.

    Completely wrong file.

    That is unfortunate. Isn't there a smaller wim on your recov partition? Might be called boot.wim ? That should do if you have it. Don't rename it, the .cmd will understand what to do with boot.wim
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  7. #17


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You might have to borrow mine. Will boot into 8.1 and make one. I Could be gone a little while.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 10
    Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You might have to borrow mine. Will boot into 8.1 and make one. I Could be gone a little while.
    I got a boot.wim ~400 MB in another of my 2 GB recovery partition inside a Sources folder. Is that it ??
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit


    Well SIW2 solved it. Here's what I had to do :

    Use Gimagex inside the WinPE to browse to install.wim.

    Click Select button. It will show the contained images.


    You need to either format the target partition before applying the wim, or if you have space, you can MOVE the existing windows directories into a folder before applying.(Format worked just fine)

    To do that, use Explorer to create a folder on the target partition called e.g. oldwin8 , then MOVE the following into it ( one at a time ) Programdata, program files,program files (x86), users,windows.

    After applying the wim, open nt6repair, and under FIX DRIVE LETTER section, select the letter you just applied the wim to and click FIX.

    The existing bcd entry already points at your current windows partition, so will still work if you applied the wim to that same partition.

    Here's the link to WinPE8.1x64-

    For the Link PM me(Decided by the owner SIW2)
    Last edited by TweaknFreak; 13 Mar 2014 at 23:39.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8.1


    RESTORING SAMSUNG RECOVERY WITH F4 LINK AFTER HARD DRIVE SWAP – NP550P5C-S05in
    (Windows 8 upgraded to Windows 8.1 via the Windows Store)

    Let me begin by saying that I did try looking for options online and researching through the various forums available but none of them were either successful, many recommended going to a Samsung service centre, most gave up or entailed reformatting the entire hard disk and starting the set up from the beginning.

    Well, fortunately for me I was successful and wanted to share my success with the others.
    To go to procedure just scroll down and skip the jabberwocky.

    SCENARIO and SYMPTOMS:

    I recently upgraded my stock hard drive to an SSHD.
    I first used Samsung’s Recovery software to create a clone and then proceeded to swap the hard drives. This was extremely easy and required no operator intervention except for swapping out the hard drives.
    Unfortunately for me, Windows 8.1 started crashing repeatedly and my laptop was rendered useless. Basically, I think, something went wrong with the copy process.
    Fortunately, I had created a Windows System Image and a Windows Recovery Drive, therefore all I did was boot from the recovery drive, select the “Restore Windows System Image” option and I was good to go.
    I also reformatted the new hard disk using the slow format process and disabled secure boot.
    Although this brought back a stable windows, the Samsung Recovery Partitions didn’t restore correctly leading to loss of the Samsung Recovery program in entirety.
    Thus began my quest to restore the Samsung recovery partitions and the F4 link.
    Now most people would actually give up at this point on the point that it would not be worth it and I even know a friend who sacrificed his recovery options for a new SSD. Most of the forums even recommend this.
    But, there is a benefit from this. You get a clean copy of windows with your laptop as it came from the factory. There is a quick and easy way to purge all your personal data when you are selling the computer and so on.

    What follows next is the procedure to restore the Samsung Recovery Partitions and the F4 link.

    PROCEDURE:
    WHAT I HAD/REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS TO WORK:

    1. A bootable Samsung Recovery USB drive.
    I exported a copy of the factory image to an external drive and made it a bootable disk using Samsung Recovery. This was before I attempted the hard drive swap and I believe was the only saving grace. I intend to upload the contents of this drive as ISOs so that others can download and create the recovery drive.
    2. A wonderful free (and a little buggy) program called EaseUS Partition Master without which I’d be stumped.
    3. A USB key to create the Samsung AdminTool – this can be created using the bootable recovery drive.

    WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW because the information available out there is really misleading.
    Samsung Recovery requires two partitions – SAMSUNG_REC AND SAMSUNG_REC2
    SAMSUNG_REC is the boot partition for Samsung Recovery to load. This partition is 1 GB in size.
    SAMSUNG_REC2 contains the factory image and in my case was 19.68 GB.

    WHAT I DID and WHAT HAPPENED
    1. Boot from the Samsung recovery drive – I first disabled Fast Boot, then selected the external disk in the first boot option and restarted.
    2. The Samsung recovery environment loaded and entered the Recovery Management Settings by pressing ctrl+alt+F10. The password I used was “secclx” (“secos” is another password if the former doesn’t work)
    3. Imported the factory settings from the external drive in the “Image” option. This will overwrite the image on the disk (which in my case was corrupted, even though present).
    4. Created the USB AdminTool. This option was previously not available as the factory settings were corrupt, like I mentioned before. After importing the factory settings, this option became available.
    5. Restarted the computer and tried to load Samsung Recovery by pressing F4 – this did not work.
    6. Booted into windows, ran Samsung Recovery from windows where I got the dreaded “Recovery partition does not exist” error.
    7. Plugged in the USB AdminTool, navigated to \Winclon and ran Admintool.exe. This brought up a set of options and of key concern is the option to “Finalize Recovery Setting”. None of the other options worked and after execution, a prompt with a small procedure appeared along with file “RecoverySettingsSV.exe” that appeared on the desktop and a set of instructions.
    8. I ran the “RecoverySettingsSV.exe” file using administrator privileges, from which a command prompt and a set of commands started to run.
    9. I tried running the Samsung Recovery program again from within Windows and presto! Recovery loaded successfully.
    10. However, when I restarted and tried to get into Samsung Recovery using the F4 – that didn’t work.
    Normally I should have let it go at this point, but I was just not happy with it.

    Here comes the complicated part.
    11. I figured that the recovery partition itself was corrupted and decided to clone the boot partition from my external bootable drive and copy it onto the hard drive. I used EaseUS for this and although it wasn’t all smooth – firstly the partition size was too small which needed to be extended, then the GPT attributes and IDs went wrong because EaseUS just changed them at random. I had to set all of this right and try again. Still no luck.
    12. Then I attempted to boot from the USB AdminTool and recreate the Boot Partition and Data partitions. This turned out to be a disaster because I lost windows all over again.
    13. Started from scratch with my trusty windows recovery drive and then using the system image restore option.
    Normally, I would have let it go at this point at least, right? HELL NO!
    14. So I started all over, THIS TIME, when I booted from the USBAdmin Tool I didn’t create new partitions, I just checked the “Reinstall the recovery partition” which reinstalls recovery on the same partition and I got a surprising error – that the partition was too small, despite being 1GB in size.
    15. Back to windows and using EaseUS, I shifted the partitions on the hard drive to create enough space to extend the SAMSUNG_REC partition to 1.1GB. Once again, all the IDs changed and I had to change back the GPT attributes to their original.
    16. I tried again, using the USB AdminTool – reinstall recovery WITHOUT creating new partitions, Fix MBR and set init date.
    17. This solved EVERYTHING!

    Samsung Recovery environment works through windows and through F4 flawlessly, like it used to.
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