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Quesiton about File History saving Outlook PST files

  1. #11


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    Agree with all of the above. I hated 8.1 within a day, never used 8. Until I found Stardock Start8. I am now an extremely happy camper. For $5 I can now do all my actions with one click (using the brilliant start menu) and still preserve the beauty of the metro Start Page when I am relaxed and willing to utilize it. Apparently start8 also disables the corner actions from multiple monitors, as I have 4 monitors, its brilliant. I think it needs some work though lol
    Ultramon was my best friend, now Microsoft have basically integrated it into 8.1. In time, they will balance it all out.

    My point being, like with anything it is trial and error on the developers part. I agree, it is frustrating. Until the overhaul, 3rd party software makes life easier.
    I love 8.1 after only a week. Its fast, attractive, practical, it also seems to me to be stable. I feel for you that they removed certain things you are used to. I find that frustrating also, but all the better for this forum for the unknowing, people will flock here and if that's the desire of administration, props to Microsoft for forcing them here.

    Find the software that best suits your needs, buy it, spread the cost out to others. I got a parking fine for $120 a while back from our local council, I recently took on another job for them, I added $1200 to the bill.

    Creative thinking

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  2. #12


    Posts : 10
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by antspants View Post
    Agree with all of the above. I hated 8.1 within a day, never used 8. Until I found Stardock Start8. I am now an extremely happy camper. For $5 I can now do all my actions with one click (using the brilliant start menu) and still preserve the beauty of the metro Start Page when I am relaxed and willing to utilize it. Apparently start8 also disables the corner actions from multiple monitors, as I have 4 monitors, its brilliant. I think it needs some work though lol
    Ultramon was my best friend, now Microsoft have basically integrated it into 8.1. In time, they will balance it all out.

    My point being, like with anything it is trial and error on the developers part. I agree, it is frustrating. Until the overhaul, 3rd party software makes life easier.
    I love 8.1 after only a week. Its fast, attractive, practical, it also seems to me to be stable. I feel for you that they removed certain things you are used to. I find that frustrating also, but all the better for this forum for the unknowing, people will flock here and if that's the desire of administration, props to Microsoft for forcing them here.

    Find the software that best suits your needs, buy it, spread the cost out to others. I got a parking fine for $120 a while back from our local council, I recently took on another job for them, I added $1200 to the bill.

    Creative thinking
    Four monitors? LOL...same here in my setup...all four gently curved around me on two dual-arm monitor stands clamped to the desk. Great way to clear the deck for more desk real estate.

    The backup issue isn't a cost issue and our data isn't at risk. I should have worded it better in my original post, but my gripe is more of a 'why would they do this' issue. From my personal standpoint, I was thinking to myself, "So the PSTs and other files aren't backed up by Windows like they were in Win7? People will think they are, but they aren't if they use File History."

    I agree with you about Metro/Start...she is pretty. And it does take a few days to grow into it. In general, the look & feel of Win8 is clean, elegant, and pretty. An interesting thing that I've noticed during some usability testings that we've done in the past year...are the reactions of older/elderly people who see Win8's Start screen for the first time. Their faces light up and they get drawn into the interface, wanting to touch the tiles and explore. They were actually giggly about it in a way I've never seen before in other O/S's.

    As for the 'trial & error on the developers' parts', I agree too. That's half our world, trying something that's either a homerun, fail, or needs more work. We listen to the testers/clients/users, understand their feedback and concerns and improve the product.

    But in the case of Win8, all during the Developer & Consumer Previews, it was clear MS wasn't listening to what a lot of testers/users were saying and their usability feedback. And the result was the Win8 face-plant.

    Now, with 8.1 and the forthcoming Update 1, MS has grudgingly admitted the faults and has been listening a bit.

    Personally, I'm loving Win8.1 Pro...despite some of its goofiness, some bugs, some handicapping and stripping of features. I'm still enjoying it and it's running everything I've got smoothly. But my Win7 system image is on hot standby, just in case. But that gets dustier by the day.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by NEURO2014 View Post
    From my personal standpoint, I was thinking to myself, "So the PSTs and other files aren't backed up by Windows like they were in Win7? People will think they are, but they aren't if they use File History."
    Remember also that SkyDrive folder is not backed up by file history in 8.1 even if it is in a library. It was in Windows 8. Not exactly clear. Windows 8.1 File History: No way to backup Skydrive directory with - Microsoft Community

    Personally, I'm loving Win8.1 Pro...despite some of its goofiness, some bugs, some handicapping and stripping of features. I'm still enjoying it and it's running everything I've got smoothly.
    Me too
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  4. #14


    Posts : 10
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    As suggested earlier in the post, I added the following folder to Libraries > Documents, so that File History would backup my PSTs.

    C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook

    After a couple of days, I went into File History to check on things being backed up...but it's NOT backing up the PSTs at all. File History is avoiding Outlook.PST and archive.PST, though it picks up the other small files in the folder. This solution sounded reasonable, though, because VSS should have allowed copies of the PSTs to be made although Outlook 2007 is running.

    As a test, I closed Outlook, then manually ran File History...and it DID backup the PSTs (this would be expected since the files aren't in use).

    But for some reason, PSTs won't be backed up while Outlook is running. This is odd, considering that VSS should allow this, as it did in Win7's Backup & Restore feature. My VSS is set to defaults of Running and Manual.

    Any thoughts or ideas about this or what to do now to backup PSTs with File History? I'm trying to love File History and use it instead of 3rd part software.

    Side Note: As another test, I installed AOEMI Backupper and for the last few days, it has been backing up the PSTs while Outlook is running. So apparently, VSS is working for AOEMI, but not for File History?
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  5. #15


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    Win7

    File History will work OK with Outlook...


    File History will work sensibly with Outlook and PST files if you operate as follows:
    - Use a Mail Service that maintains a replica of your mail folders on-line and have Outlook deliver your mail to an OST file. (Example: Hotmail; use Outlook Connector)

    - Ensure Autoarchiving on your PC is set to run "infrequently" eg. once per month. Ensure the PST (archive) file to which it moves the mail is located in a Library.

    The OST file will not be backed up (it is not located in a library) and you don't need it to be because your mail is saved on the on-line service and will replicate from their in the event you lose your hard disk.

    The PST file will only change once per month, and File History will copy it then, thus avoiding excessive backup processing and data volumes.

    Note: File History will not process Open (locked) files. So you need to be in the habit of shutting down Outlook if you want any PST file which it attaches to be backed-up.


    By the way, the Win7 Backup and Restore System is present on Win 8. There may be restrictions which impede doing Win 7 scheduled backups as well as Win 8 File History.

    NOTE: The following thread suggests the issue is not as easily addressed as stated above:
    Bad interaction between Outlook PST files and Windows 8/8.1 File - Microsoft Community
    Last edited by Rau; 13 Nov 2014 at 18:32.
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