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lost all restore points

  1. #1


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    lost all restore points


    Prior to doing a system restore with a third party imaging program which was successful and saved the day, I noticed all the restore points were gone. They were there as I check each day
    Why did they disappear as they never used to?
    Thank you
    Peter

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  2. #2


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Peter,

    Usually when you do a system restore or system image recovery, all restore points created after the date of the restore point or image will be removed.

    A 3rd party program adds a level of unknown as to what it may remove though.

    Hope this helps some.
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  3. #3


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Hello Brink
    I read that Macrium and MS both use Volume Shadow Copy Service.
    Would you think it likely that is the cause or that Macrium has an issue?
    It never happened to me before, that I can remember.
    Thank you
    Peter
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  4. #4


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    I don't use Macrium, but I would expect at least any restore points created after the date of the image would be removed since they were not there when the image was created.
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  5. #5


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Macrium does not delete restore points when you make an image of C - I just tested that. It does though use VSS to freeze the image so that you can continue working on the system during the imaging time.
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  6. #6


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    I am not too skilled so don't know the dynamics of this however, I had restore points when the image was created so I thought they would be there when I recovered to the date that had these points - surprise!

    It is ok as I will still use it as it has never failed me in crisis in over ten years and about a dozen recoveries. I l also have WinPE 5. for 8.1 that Macrium walks you through in creating the disc. I am sure there are as good if not better out there; I had Acronis until 2010 when another license was required but it seems it was for skilled users. I miss the Try and Decide feature it had.Thank you all.
    Peter
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    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Now you may be talking about something else. Does Macrium image the restore points ?? The answer is No. But it does not touch the restore points on your running system.

    Why would you want Macrium to image the restore points anyhow. At the time you restore the image, those restore points may be days or weeks old and do not really mean anything any more.
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  8. #8


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Hypothetically, if the points were functional and useful at the time of imaging, they would be the same at the time of recovery.

    I accept that that is not the way it is done but is why I had trouble wondering why they were gone.
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  9. #9


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I guess there is some logic to it. The image kind of supersedes the restore points and imaging them would inflate the size of the image. But I see your point. They could be useful if the image is flawed.

    I will try Aomei and see whether they do it differently.
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  10. #10


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    VSS


    Win 8.1 Pro
    I think my macrium depends upon this service.

    Should Volume Shadow Copy Service be set at running and automatic as I have it or should I change it?

    I thought the settings were diffferent when I checked with task manager and services.msc.

    Thank you
    Last edited by Peter2; 04 Feb 2014 at 09:50. Reason: OS omitted
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