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Will a clean install of 8.1 fix the mess of my 8 registry?

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    Quebec
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center

    Will a clean install of 8.1 fix the mess of my 8 registry?


    Hi,
    My registry is so messy from the leftovers of many uninstall, which also deleted stuff necessary elsewhere, that almost all the important updates of Windows 8.0 failed.

    I have checked my registry with “Registry First Aid”. It found too many errors with yellow and red flags of advanced stuff. Therefore, cleaning those might do more harm.

    It would be great if a clean install of Windows 8.1 could flush the entire registry and rebuild a new one! Because I want to avoid the last recourse which is to reset my laptop as factory on Windows 7. But that raises another question since I changed my hard drive. What will happen to my partitions because there was none on the original drive?

    Thanks for your valuable imputs.

    Daniel

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    It would be great if a clean install of Windows 8.1 could flush the entire registry and rebuild a new one!
    Yes it would....do you have the 8.1 ISO and a 8.1 product key? If not you will need to factory reset laptop to 7 and then upgrade to 8.1
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    Well, if you are, in any case, planning a fresh install as a last resort - very good idea - why not take the plunge and use Cleaner, in particular its reg clean facility, first, and see how you get on after that?
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    Harrisonburg, Va.
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Well, if you are, in any case, planning a fresh install as a last resort - very good idea - why not take the plunge and use Cleaner, in particular its reg clean facility, first, and see how you get on after that?

    Link to download it:

    Download CCleaner 4.09.4471 - FileHippo.com

    A picture:

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  5. #5


    Quebec
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    Greetings forums' readers & helpers, ٩̢ ̗(Ӧ̮Ӧ)̢ ̗۶

    Thanks guys for your responses. Before I reply to bassfisher6522 in my next comment, I want to talk about CCleaner because it is more important to people.

     ๆ̢ ̗(͡◉ֹ̮̃ ̮̃̃͡◉ֹ̃̃)̢̃ ̗۶̑I have “CCleaner 4.09.4471” . I use it mainly to clean the Internet Temporary files and unwanted cookies, control the ̔msconfig̓, the explorer context menu...

    As for cleaning the registry, don't ever use it โ̢ ̗(͠❂ֹ̰̃ ̰͠❂ֹ̃)̢ ̗۶‼ All the registry cleaners are dangerous ̒¿̲̒͡ ʅʅ Those tools are more or less good only to find the errors and to propose a fix for each one. CCleaner is very weak at finding them and just delete. CCleaner is like brooming the floor where you walk, while “Registry First Aid” move the furnitures around (including you refrigerator) and analyze the junk behind with a loupe. Then, it tells you where each piece might go and let you decide. Each error has a link to its place in the registry to look at for details.

    Example: Last light, CCleaner found about 20 errors, while RFA found over 800, conservatively. I have clean the easy one, but in the 430 remaining advanced ones, 68 are for expert to deal with.


    BTW David Bailey, what font did you used for your signature in your image above? ̒¿̡̒͡ ʅʅ The closest font that I have is the “Edwardian Script ITC”.

    Regards,

    Daniel ≈̰ ̃(ړײ ) ̰͠〰

    P.S.: I made a Tutorial in the Windows 7 Forums :
    Its works on both, in Windows 7 and Windows 8. The editing in the registry was approved by Brink

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    Last edited by DanSitar; 11 Jan 2014 at 00:26.
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  6. #6


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Liberate.ttf:

    liberate.zip
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    I have used Ccleaner for many years, without problems. Maybe I got lucky. However, you are aware that you can customise it?
    Possibly Ccleaner found less errors as, in its uncustomised state, it is more cautious?
    It does offer you the option to backup the registry, before "fixing", si in the event of subsequent problems, you can replace it. I frequently experiment with third party programs. I clean monthly, manually and with the help of Ccleaner. After many years of programming, the parties who write them still do not get the uninstall part 100%. It is usually these bits and pieces that Ccleaner takes care of (for me)
    But it is an individual choice. The odd items, if redundant, do not cause problems and the used space is very small. If a user is nervous of using cleaning programs, as in your case, it is no great loss to do without them.
    Yes. It certainly is like cleaning the floor, but, as when cleaning the floor, you can pick out any items of value, which may have been accidentally left, before proceeding.
    As you stated "It would be great if a clean install of Windows 8.1 could flush the entire registry and rebuild a new one", then, what's to lose!
    My suggestion, having obviously had a better experience than yourself, was made in good faith. There are many posts and threads in this forum, for and against. I would say again, it is the user's choice.
    Last edited by davehc; 11 Jan 2014 at 01:52.
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    CCleaner is one of the more benign programs for registry cleaning and although it will not "repair" it, it might get rid of some leftover entries but that part is not as important as wrong entries and mistakes made by some programs or generally messing about with it.
    Finally those leftover entries are not the only thing left after uninstalling some programs, there's also matter of shared DLLs and leftover files and entries in system folders so uing a good uninstaller like "Revo uninstaller" is a must if you go thru a lot of programs, as it will also get rid of most leftovers. Uninstalling programs thru windows leaves you to the mercy of those programs uninstallers and if they are not properly written all kinds of stuff is still there after uninstallation. Might be a good idea to make Restore points regularly so you can get back in a hurry when needed.
    If you do a clean install of windows (any) old registry does not matter any more, new one is made anyway.
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    Quebec
    Posts : 14
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


     ๆ̢ ̗(Ӧ̮Ӧ)̢ ̗۶Thank you davehc, David and CountMike to have shed some light on the pros and cons of the registry cleaning programs and to have re-assured me that a clean-install would reset my registry free of any BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by bassfisher6522
    Yes it would....do you have the 8.1 ISO and a 8.1 product key? If not you will need to factory reset laptop to 7 and then upgrade to 8.1
    Sorry bassfisher6522 for the delay to reply.I have red somewhere that you cannot upgrade directly from 7 to 8.1; that you must to 8 first and then, to 8.1. My problem with that process is that my Windows 8 came from a free ISO from Microsoft during their promotion of their Media Center. They emailed us our personal key. But we had to install it before the deadline of that promo to remain free. Now I doubt if my key will work to even download the 8.1, but I will give it a try.


    BTW, I saw somewhere many types of Windows 8.1 ISO files that are differentiated by capital letters. I know that ‘RTM’ = "Release To Manufacturing". But what about these:
    • ‘AIO’
    • ‘ESD’
    • ‘WIM’
    • ‘VL’
    • ‘NVL’

    Which one shall I use if plan ‘A’ doesn't work? I just have a laptop at home to spend my retirement with ̒¿̒ ̡͡ ʅ

    Thanks for your valuable imputs,

    Daniel ≈̰ ̃(ړײ ) ̰͠〰
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    Quebec
    Posts : 14
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    That question has been SOLVED by SIW2 in my thread

    What these acronyms stand for in the ISO file's names: RTM

    • RTM = “Release To Manufacturing”.

    AIO = “All In One”. Lots of windows editions in one ‘install.wim’ or ‘install.esd’ file. Often includes both bit versions.

    WIM = “Windows Image”. It is in MS imaging format, contains pe and/or windows installation files. Useful and flexible, can be serviced.

    ESD = 'I don't know'. It is a highly compressed version of ‘WIM’. Can install from it , useless for anything else, cannot be serviced.

    VL = “Volume License”.

    NVL = “Volume License N Version”.
    Last edited by DanSitar; 31 Jan 2014 at 19:55. Reason: changed "post" for "thread"
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