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Will a clean install of 8.1 fix the mess of my 8 registry?

  1. #11


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    I am always amused that a couple of issues crop up from years past that USED to be a problem but no longer. One is a "fragmented hard drive". The other is a "dirty registery file". You still get to see these "TERRIBLE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN YOUR COMPUTER" by programs that are, you guessed it, trying to sell you utilities to "fix" these god-awful issues. Both of these issues have been scrutinized over the past 15 years and have shown to no longer have any real effect on the computer's boot time or in running programs. Clean and defrag if you want using commonly available utilities but you will not notice any improvement and the for pay utilities will STILL find hidden, important "issues". I occasionally clean out my registry (with no ill effects EVER) but mostly as a sense of duty or because a program I want a clean install of a program I just upgraded. Since MS never bothered to install a registry cleaning program, that is how little cleaning the registry means.
    When Dan sees or thinks he has a "very messy" registry, I am sure he used some sort of program that told him this.

    NOTE: This is STILL a highly controversial subject among long time users and I fully expect to be BLASTED AND DAMNED for posting this. I will not respond so as to hopefully let the flames die out but be aware.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    I am always amused that a couple of issues crop up from years past that USED to be a problem but no longer. One is a "fragmented hard drive". The other is a "dirty registery file". You still get to see these "TERRIBLE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN YOUR COMPUTER" by programs that are, you guessed it, trying to sell you utilities to "fix" these god-awful issues. Both of these issues have been scrutinized over the past 15 years and have shown to no longer have any real effect on the computer's boot time or in running programs. Clean and defrag if you want using commonly available utilities but you will not notice any improvement and the for pay utilities will STILL find hidden, important "issues". I occasionally clean out my registry (with no ill effects EVER) but mostly as a sense of duty or because a program I want a clean install of a program I just upgraded. Since MS never bothered to install a registry cleaning program, that is how little cleaning the registry means.
    When Dan sees or thinks he has a "very messy" registry, I am sure he used some sort of program that told him this.

    NOTE: This is STILL a highly controversial subject among long time users and I fully expect to be BLASTED AND DAMNED for posting this. I will not respond so as to hopefully let the flames die out but be aware.
    Wholeheartedly agree with you, snake oil is all that they try to sell you with all those "super- duper, miracle programs" that in the first place make a problem so they can "solve" it for you. In the era before (and somewhat during) XP, I used to reinstall windows every six months on heavily used computer because cleaning registry was just too much work. That's when some programs could help somewhat but never run into any that could do perfect job and did not need additional work to make everything perfect.
    Still, prevention by properly and cleanly uninstalling programs goes furthest at keeping registry and file system clean and healthy. For cleaning junk, windows has "disk cleaner" that has just enough "power" to rid system of unnecessary clutter acquired by normal use, so no need for any (especially payed) programs for that either.
    Win 8 /8.1 is very good at keeping disk and registry fragmentation to a minimum and with the advent of SSDs, even that is getting to be utterly unnecessary and with no speed penalty.
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  3. #13


    Quebec
    Posts : 14
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    When Dan sees or thinks he has a "very messy" registry, I am sure he used some sort of program that told him this.
     ٩̢ ̗(Ӧ̮Ӧ)̢ ̗۶Thanks johnpombrio to reassure me that my problems are not in the registry!

      ̯ʼﮈ Then why Windows updates keep failing, especially the important security ones?
    And why my computer keeps slowing down from programs looking for their missing DLL and ActiveX that were uninstalled by other programs? ̒ ̯̒ ˀʅ

     ใ̮(ಠ̮̃ಠ̃)̢̃ ̗۶̑I agree with you that I would be an idiot to try different registry cleaners just to see for fun what they would come up with, and then, panic at their reports, instead of being conscious of the real problems and use those cleaners to pinpoint what could be the causes. I am so glad that a master in Windows 8 confidently made the affirmation that my problems are definitively not in the registry ใ̢ ̗(̾̈́͡◉̐̈́͜ ̐̈́͡◉̍̈́)̢ ̗۶

    Please, tell me what are/could be the causes.

    Regards and thanks, ¿̒ ̡͡ ʅ

    P.S.: I am backing up all my files and setup programs before my clean install of 8.1...
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  4. #14


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Dan, When you have that many issues, you are not going to find that cleaning the registry will fix them! My first guess would be a corrupt (broken) hard drive. That will cause pieces to be missing. You could try checking your drive for errors:

    Click image for larger version

    If that does not help, and the problem is localized to a particular program, uninstall it and reinstall it. Next run a virus checker. You can try a recovery of your operating system (look under tutorials here).
    Finally, as a last resort, a clean install might be required.
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  5. #15


    Cleaning registry is not the same thing as fixing it. No cleaner can "fix" wrong entries or make necessary ones, at most can get rid of some entries that are left over and do not have a clear connection to a program or setting.
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  6. #16


    Quebec
    Posts : 14
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    @johnpombrio: ٩̢ ̗(̾̈́͡◑̾̈́̈́͜ ̾̈́̈́͡◑̾̈́)̢ ̗۶̑i'm glad to report that with the tool in your image, my hard drive has no error and is 0% fragmented. In fact, my laptop came with a Windows 7 OS and the original hard drive became physically defective after about two years. So, I made a clean install of Windows 8 on a new drive.

    As for virus and stuff, everything is monitored closely on my machine, including whatever goes in and out, each web page is checked before the browser opens it and there is nobody around to touch my laptop..

    The only programs that are still installed are the old ones that used to work fine. I concluded that it is not worth anymore to spend more time to investigate further. So, a clean install of 8.1 is the think to do.

    I am sure the readers and I appreciate your checklist̮(ֹ̑̈́͌̈́͜ ͌̈́̐̈́)̢ ̗۶


    @CountMike: ๆ̮(ಠ̮̃ಠ̃)̮̃۶̑I agree with you. That is why I prefer cleaners like Registry-First-Aid, which suggests you the solutions who might fix each problem that is flagged from ‘safe’ to ‘critical’ for advanced users.

    Thanks for the input.

    Regards, ¿̒ ̡͡ ʅ
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  7. #17


    Two things have messed with my registry enough for new installations.
    1- Clicking "Yes" or "Yes to All" when asked about deleting Shared dll files when deleting programs. I always say "NO" now
    2- Browning. When a refrigerator or air conditioner kicking on initially draws extra power which causes light bulbs to dim and files in computers to be dropped if they are being used. My house is so bad I use to reinstall 98 at least once a week.
    Until I was told to buy a Battery Backup UPS.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Two things have messed with my registry enough for new installations.
    1- Clicking "Yes" or "Yes to All" when asked about deleting Shared dll files when deleting programs. I always say "NO" now
    2- Browning. When a refrigerator or air conditioner kicking on initially draws extra power which causes light bulbs to dim and files in computers to be dropped if they are being used. My house is so bad I use to reinstall 98 at least once a week.
    Until I was told to buy a Battery Backup UPS.
    1. Never had a problem when uninstalling with "Revo", even on most aggressive settings.
    2. A good power supply can also handle problems like that. My Chieftec 450W keeps computer running without problems even with power out for a second or two. Multi voltage (input) PSUs are rated for 100 to 250v, so problems with "dirty" power are more or less alleviated. PSU is very important for stable work. Importance of good ground on all the appliances can not be overstated either.
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