System restore gets tured off unexpectedly

dodgeman21

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Reloaded my computer and downloaded apps...and 2 times I received a different redirect virus and the first thing it does is turn off the system restore and wipe out any restore points. Then, I am screwed...
I always uncheck all the extra stuff like toolbars apps like to get you to download. The last app that did this was the weather channel app.

My question is, how can I configure system restore to require a password to disable it which a virus may not look for ?
Or anything to keep system restore intact ?

It is too easy for these virus' to keep folks from restoring.

Thanks
 

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The only solution here is to remove the virus; period. If you know your computer is infected, you must get rid of the source and hope that any resultant damage is not left behind. With that said, I am not a malware removal specialist, and quite honestly, even the best (sometimes) cannot fix all the damage that is left behind. So, just in case you need them, here are a few tutorials for your reference:

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/26095-repair-install-windows-8-a.html

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2299-clean-install-windows-8-a.html

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/13375-clean-install-windows-8-upgrade.html

Good luck.
 

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I suspected there is no good way to protect system restore but it would be the ticket if they could come up with something.
Life would be a whole lot easier if I could have restored it and see what happens then go from there.
Typical antivirus programs wouldn't pick up the problems but adwcleaner and rouge killer got it.
Thanks for the reply
 

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Typical antivirus programs wouldn't pick up the problem

I have never been infected so I would not know that. So, maybe my Avast is a bit better on the prevention side than whatever you are currently using?

but adwcleaner and rouge killer got it

Glad you got it fixed.
 

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I don't know my2cents , I know the app download slid right past my popular av. You have me wondering if I were to take that unpacked download and ran it at virus total if some av would have caught anything ? hmmm
Maybe I will try that with any suspect app download unless that won't work for some reason.

Thanks
 

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The best fix would be to do image backups to an external hard drive. That way recovery is only 15-20 minutes. Just keep it current.
 

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I don't know my2cents , I know the app download slid right past my popular av. You have me wondering if I were to take that unpacked download and ran it at virus total if some av would have caught anything ? hmmm
Maybe I will try that with any suspect app download unless that won't work for some reason.

Thanks

I can only tell you that Avast has worked for me for years and I have never been infected; however, I have been warned (on many occasions) that an impending download contains a virus and Avast always gave me a chance to abort the connection. Moreover, today's better AVs contain less specific virus definitions and rely more heavily on a more complexed heuristic algorithm which allows them to block suspect file downloads "before" they are sent to the lab for further evaluation. This works well in preventing undiscovered viruses from infecting your computer. Now, as far as scanning a download after the fact, that might work; however, I hope I never have to test that method as long as Avast keeps protecting me up front. Also, please be advised that I am a safe-surfer and, I believe that anyone that does not observe safe-surfing habits, will eventually get infected, no matter how good their protection may be. Good luck.
 

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Thanks my2 cents. I think avast is one of the engines virus total uses.

Rich, as you mentioned I now cloned the ssd onto another identical ssd and I think the plan will be to check for virus' then check for any windows errors then re clone the drive from time to time.
Believe this or not I went to old timers site for the OTL the screen blinked and then I ran rouge killer and something had control of my host whatever that is, RK would pick up a hi jack of some kind, eliminate it and it would come right back. I scanned with a bunch of engines and found nothing so it was clever.
I pulled out the ssd I had just cloned 2 days before and put it in and was down the road. Cant get any luckier than that :)

I am wondering how much cloning that ssd will take,....guess i will find out.

Thanks.
 

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I am wondering how much cloning that ssd will take,....guess i will find out.

Now, that's an entirely different subject! However, there are some that are afraid they might wear out their SSD prematurely because of all the press about how durable they are. So, for your reference, here is my SSD R/W information that would indicate I have done system images over 100 times and I have yet to get a single error.

ssd.jpg

Do as many images and clones as you like...
 

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Good info ...hopefully my 840 Pro can take it...it is fast but maybe there is a trade off and it might turn out to be the 409 Chevy of ssd's ...who knows lol
That would be my luck.

So far so good tho..

Thanks
 

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Good info ...hopefully my 840 Pro can take it...it is fast but maybe there is a trade off and it might turn out to be the 409 Chevy of ssd's ...who knows lol
That would be my luck.

So far so good tho..

Thanks

I had a 1963 Grand Prix with a a 428 (or was it a 421?) with dual carbs and it would eat those 409's alive. Hmm... you can tell I'm getting older when I can't even remember the specs of my once favorite car.
 

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421/. They ran pretty good. There were a couple 409's around here that ran really good too... for a while.
 

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421/. They ran pretty good. There were a couple 409's around here that ran really good too... for a while.

Yep! Nothing against Cheys. My first car was a 1959 Ford Galaxy 500 XL stock 289 (I think)? And I could never beat that old 1958 Chevy with the stock 283 (I think)? It always nosed me out at the end. OK, I'm done. Good luck.
 

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Well, I had a Chevy Corvair Monza Spyder :D (two of them actually) until we had our first child. Ran out of room quickly after that.
 

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Well, I had a Chevy Corvair Monza Spyder :D (two of them actually) until we had our first child. Ran out of room quickly after that.

Hey, I remember them! They were somewhat of a novelty as I remember because all the other cars were still so big. Goodnight all!
 

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You cant leave yet, we're not done racin'..there has to be a way I can pull into cyberspace with a 63 409/409 and you whip in with the 421 and we can go at it :) LOL

Sounds like a cool corvair ZTruker...turbo , yes?

At the moment I run an '09 Challenger with a gen lll 426 Hemi and it runs good for as heavy as it is, 4500 with me in it...like the old old days I guess. It's a blast !

Back to the subject I happen to remember that last ordeal I had with OTL download also wiped out my system restore right off the bat as well. I wish the windows folks would see this and at least think about a patch of some kind to protect restore, somehow.
 

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Funny how I have the exact opposite problem, my system restore turns on unexpectedly even though I've turned it off in the Control Panel for my SSD.

I have to go into Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc) to completely disable system restore off my SDD since I use 3rd party software for backup and restore on my secondary mechanical hard drive.
 

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You cant leave yet, we're not done racin'..there has to be a way I can pull into cyberspace with a 63 409/409 and you whip in with the 421 and we can go at it :) LOL
Yes, you might whip me now because I can guarantee you that I cannot slam those power shifts as fast anymore; however, I think I made a slight mistake when I described my 421 w/dual carbs. Actually, it should have read a 421 w/dual "quad" carbs. I can remember once when a Chevelle 396 and a GTO 383 were lining up to race from a light... I was sitting in back of them (right in between), and when the light changed, I split those two babies in half and zoomed straight in between them and made it through the next green light before they had to stop for the red. I sorta laughed as I observed them in my rear view mirror. Please understand that this behavior was not correct in any way, shape or form; however, when you are young..... this was also in a remotely deserted area in the middle of the night. Again, no excuse other than the vigor of youth. However, once I finally grew tired of the gas expense, I moved to a 1964 Pontiac Bonneville which had a huge rear seat that was great at the drive-in movies every Saturday.... OOPS, don't wanna go there...
 

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Funny how I have the exact opposite problem, my system restore turns on unexpectedly even though I've turned it off in the Control Panel for my SSD.

Hi Nemix,

I also have noticed that behavior where my system restore periodically gets turned back on for reasons unknown. BTW, do you use any 3rd-party cleaning software?
 

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That was funny my2cents, bet they were surprised.

I found the weatherchannel app in my downloads that gave me fits and ran it at virus total. 4 av's picked up infection, Avast and the other big guys missed it...huh.
 

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