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Macrium v5

  1. #1


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Macrium v5


    Hello
    If I use the Linux disc which I am used to I tap F12.
    If I use the Win PE disc, do I still do that or is there another way to get it to boot?
    I saw one video where the person waited until it did boot which was a long time. I also heard one must go to F2 to set the Bios. If this is the case, do I go back after and reset the bios to boot from hard disc?
    Thank you
    Peter

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  2. #2


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Bootable CD/DVD/USB which are signed by Microsoft, can also be booted from
    Startup Options Menu - Boot to in Windows 8

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  3. #3


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Hi peter2,

    Just my experience with Macrium 5 thus far. It appears there is some boot issue with the Win PE disc; in that, I have to perform the following sequence to get it to boot correctly:

    Load disc into tray
    Reboot and select one-time boot menu (mine is F12)
    Select CD/DVD
    Macrium starts to boot and goes to black screen

    Note: At this point, Macrium is expected to take quite a bit of time but never fully loads, so I have to:

    Manually power off
    Power on
    Select F12 (again)
    Select CD/DVD (again)

    This time the wait is still long but it eventually loads and is now useable.

    In summary, I do understand that it should not work this way; however, the method above is always required for mine to work so give it a try and see if it works for you as well. BTW, changing the permanent boot order should not be required; however, I have never done it. Good luck.
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  4. #4


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    imaging


    my2cents + Theog I have the older BIOS not UEFI

    @ my2cents -I am replying to you as we use Macrium. I got into a dialogue with a person who used bootable media but not the one Macrium made and it got sticky.
    I watched a tutorial and the time was very long but eventually Macrium appeared. I'll bet, from what I watched if you wait about 4 minutes and it says Windows files are loading etc. , it will eventually show Macrium.

    @Theog - I know where that section is and wonder if this applies to booting from the Macrium cd both Linux and Win PE both which were created within Macrium as a watered down Windows version.

    * So, with just Macrium in mind, I can still access my images with F12 but am not skilled enough to get out of trouble so am afraid if I use the WinPE disc I will lose and image b/c of the trouble you mention. Should you/we be using Theog's diagram?

    This is why I am writing to find out about the way the Win PE disc should be used.
    Looks like I am at a standstill.

    Isn't the diagram for UEFI users? I always booted from the disc and not within Windows. Does the new UEFI want you to boot from within Windows ?
    Peter
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    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    @ my2cents -I am replying to you as we use Macrium. I got into a dialogue with a person who used bootable media but not the one Macrium made and it got sticky.
    I watched a tutorial and the time was very long but eventually Macrium appeared. I'll bet, from what I watched if you wait about 4 minutes and it says Windows files are loading etc. , it will eventually show Macrium.
    Nope! I was clear about my specific issue and if it only affects my configuration, then so be it.

    However, if you have a Legacy BIOS, that boot condition may not apply to you at all. Good luck.

    Now, after all is said and done, I still don't understand the root of your issue. With that said, you still need to boot from either the Linux or Macrium WinPe disk to "restore" your system image. As you stated previously, you simply load either disc, wait for it to complete, access the Macrium menu, select an image to restore, and watch it work! So, where is the hang up here?
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Note: At this point, Macrium is expected to take quite a bit of time but never fully loads
    That's odd. Is this only since v5, or is it to do with win8?

    My pe has Paragon and Aomei and a bunch of other stuff - loads up pretty fast.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Hi again Peter2,

    I think I owe you an apology of sorts; in that, the original description of my problem was incorrect after reviewing same. With that said, I have provided a corrected version here for your review:

    Load disc into tray
    Reboot and select one-time boot menu (mine is F12)
    Wait, wait, and wait some more but the one time boot menu never appears
    Select CD/DVD
    Macrium starts to boot and goes to black screen


    Try again:

    Manually power off
    Power on
    Select F12 (again)
    Boot menu now appears in less than 30 seconds
    Select CD/DVD (again)
    Wait several minutes (watching a black screen) waiting for Macrium to load
    Macrium interface finally visible
    Restore selected image
    Done

    Sorry for the confusion.
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    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    I normally create the rescue disk using a USB Stick. But for this thread, I am curious and created a rescue disk using a CD. Here's what I found: It took 2.30 Minutes to boot from CD where as It took only 30 seconds to boot from USB. So my suggestion is to create the rescue media using a USB Stick, which provides faster booting time and in addition, you can rebuild the rescue media with the new version without wasting another CD.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 279
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    I normally create the rescue disk using a USB Stick. But for this thread, I am curious and created a rescue disk using a CD. Here's what I found: It took 2.30 Minutes to boot from CD where as It took only 30 seconds to boot from USB. So my suggestion is to create the rescue media using a USB Stick, which provides faster booting time and in addition, you can rebuild the rescue media with the new version without wasting another CD.
    What are you going to do with those extra 2 minutes??
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  10. #10


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    @2cents -there is no need to apologize. I understand where your configuration might be different.
    I guess I should give the WinPE disc a try.

    @topgun - I have read a lot about usb stick's being better ways to do things. Thank you for the suggestion. I am curious, how many flash drives do you have loaded aside to perform tasks?
    Also, do you have Macrium?
    @ All - My question seems unanswered. Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery?
    I have Theog's suggestion but Macrium's help does not seem to do that. They want to use the disc. I wish I knew of someone with Macrium who successfully used the Win PE recovery disc without a work around.
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