Macrium v5

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Hello
If I use the Linux disc which I am used to I tap F12.
If I use the Win PE disc, do I still do that or is there another way to get it to boot?
I saw one video where the person waited until it did boot which was a long time. I also heard one must go to F2 to set the Bios. If this is the case, do I go back after and reset the bios to boot from hard disc?
Thank you
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Bootable CD/DVD/USB which are signed by Microsoft, can also be booted from
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4935-startup-options-menu-boot-windows-8-a.html

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Hi peter2,

Just my experience with Macrium 5 thus far. It appears there is some boot issue with the Win PE disc; in that, I have to perform the following sequence to get it to boot correctly:

Load disc into tray
Reboot and select one-time boot menu (mine is F12)
Select CD/DVD
Macrium starts to boot and goes to black screen

Note: At this point, Macrium is expected to take quite a bit of time but never fully loads, so I have to:

Manually power off
Power on
Select F12 (again)
Select CD/DVD (again)

This time the wait is still long but it eventually loads and is now useable.

In summary, I do understand that it should not work this way; however, the method above is always required for mine to work so give it a try and see if it works for you as well. BTW, changing the permanent boot order should not be required; however, I have never done it. Good luck.
 

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my2cents + Theog I have the older BIOS not UEFI

@ my2cents -I am replying to you as we use Macrium. I got into a dialogue with a person who used bootable media but not the one Macrium made and it got sticky.
I watched a tutorial and the time was very long but eventually Macrium appeared. I'll bet, from what I watched if you wait about 4 minutes and it says Windows files are loading etc. , it will eventually show Macrium.

@Theog - I know where that section is and wonder if this applies to booting from the Macrium cd both Linux and Win PE both which were created within Macrium as a watered down Windows version.

* So, with just Macrium in mind, I can still access my images with F12 but am not skilled enough to get out of trouble so am afraid if I use the WinPE disc I will lose and image b/c of the trouble you mention. Should you/we be using Theog's diagram?

This is why I am writing to find out about the way the Win PE disc should be used.
Looks like I am at a standstill.

Isn't the diagram for UEFI users? I always booted from the disc and not within Windows. Does the new UEFI want you to boot from within Windows ?
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@ my2cents -I am replying to you as we use Macrium. I got into a dialogue with a person who used bootable media but not the one Macrium made and it got sticky.
I watched a tutorial and the time was very long but eventually Macrium appeared. I'll bet, from what I watched if you wait about 4 minutes and it says Windows files are loading etc. , it will eventually show Macrium.

Nope! I was clear about my specific issue and if it only affects my configuration, then so be it.

However, if you have a Legacy BIOS, that boot condition may not apply to you at all. Good luck.

Now, after all is said and done, I still don't understand the root of your issue. With that said, you still need to boot from either the Linux or Macrium WinPe disk to "restore" your system image. As you stated previously, you simply load either disc, wait for it to complete, access the Macrium menu, select an image to restore, and watch it work! So, where is the hang up here?
 

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Note: At this point, Macrium is expected to take quite a bit of time but never fully loads

That's odd. Is this only since v5, or is it to do with win8?

My pe has Paragon and Aomei and a bunch of other stuff - loads up pretty fast.
 

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Hi again Peter2,

I think I owe you an apology of sorts; in that, the original description of my problem was incorrect after reviewing same. With that said, I have provided a corrected version here for your review:

Load disc into tray
Reboot and select one-time boot menu (mine is F12)
Wait, wait, and wait some more but the one time boot menu never appears
[DEL]Select CD/DVD
Macrium starts to boot and goes to black screen
[/DEL]

Try again:

Manually power off
Power on
Select F12 (again)
Boot menu now appears in less than 30 seconds
Select CD/DVD (again)
Wait several minutes (watching a black screen) waiting for Macrium to load
Macrium interface finally visible
Restore selected image
Done

Sorry for the confusion.
 

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I normally create the rescue disk using a USB Stick. But for this thread, I am curious and created a rescue disk using a CD. Here's what I found: It took 2.30 Minutes to boot from CD where as It took only 30 seconds to boot from USB. So my suggestion is to create the rescue media using a USB Stick, which provides faster booting time and in addition, you can rebuild the rescue media with the new version without wasting another CD.
 

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I normally create the rescue disk using a USB Stick. But for this thread, I am curious and created a rescue disk using a CD. Here's what I found: It took 2.30 Minutes to boot from CD where as It took only 30 seconds to boot from USB. So my suggestion is to create the rescue media using a USB Stick, which provides faster booting time and in addition, you can rebuild the rescue media with the new version without wasting another CD.

What are you going to do with those extra 2 minutes?? ;)
 

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@2cents -there is no need to apologize. I understand where your configuration might be different.
I guess I should give the WinPE disc a try.

@topgun - I have read a lot about usb stick's being better ways to do things. Thank you for the suggestion. I am curious, how many flash drives do you have loaded aside to perform tasks?
Also, do you have Macrium?
@ All - My question seems unanswered. Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery?
I have Theog's suggestion but Macrium's help does not seem to do that. They want to use the disc. I wish I knew of someone with Macrium who successfully used the Win PE recovery disc without a work around.
 

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@ All - My question seems unanswered. Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery?
I have Theog's suggestion but Macrium's help does not seem to do that. They want to use the disc. I wish I knew of someone with Macrium who successfully used the Win PE recovery disc without a work around.

I use Macrium Standard Edition.
It works good.
Here are some tutorial pictures I made:

Screenshot (9).png

Screenshot (10).png

Screenshot (11).png

Screenshot (12).png

Very easy to use.
A 64 GB usb drive should suffice.

To restore the image insert the usb & restart & choose Macrium from the 2 options & let it work till it is done.
Simple. :)
 

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Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery

I think your terminology is sort of backwards. Now, referring specifcally to Macrium Reflect Free:

Start Macrium Free in the Windows Environment
Select Other Tasks> Create Rescue Media (top menu)
Follow instructions...
 

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I forgot to mention that the above will allow you to choose to create either a WinPe or Linux rescue disk. However, since I have had problems with the WinPe version, I might just try out the Linux version. Please be aware that the WinPe version requires a huge download (automatically from Microsoft) and it will take quite a bit of time to get thru the WinPe rescue disc creation process. Now, since I only do "full image restorals", I might just switch to the Linux version and see what happens. Good luck and thank you.

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Please see here and notice it says to inset disc then power up not restart. Maybe you need to do as you were from the beginning but omit the restart and just power up.
It is only a suggestion.
Linux has never failed me but I made a Win PE thinking ahead to UEFI Win 8.1

Rescue a system with the Windows PE environment
 

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Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery

I think your terminology is sort of backwards. Now, referring specifcally to Macrium Reflect Free:

Start Macrium Free in the Windows Environment
Select Other Tasks> Create Rescue Media (top menu)
Follow instructions...

@2cents - I meant to say, using WinPE how do you recover an image with Macrium?
 

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@ All - My question seems unanswered. Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery?
I have Theog's suggestion but Macrium's help does not seem to do that. They want to use the disc. I wish I knew of someone with Macrium who successfully used the Win PE recovery disc without a work around.

I use Macrium Standard Edition.
It works good.
Here are some tutorial pictures I made:

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View attachment 29260

View attachment 29261

Very easy to use.
A 64 GB usb drive should suffice.

To restore the image insert the usb & restart & choose Macrium from the 2 options & let it work till it is done.
Simple. :)

@David - Which of the 2 discs do you use? I use the Linux disc and it has not failed me in over 20 recoveries. I was curious about the WinPE disc with the advent of UEFI and Win 8.1 etc
 

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@Peter2,

I just wanted to say thank you for helping me resolve my own issue (which I described previously). I discovered the fix when I decided to test the Linux Recovery CD instead of using the WinPe disc I have been using. And, lo and behold, I received thisi warning right after the creation of same:

"Completely Power Off Your PC Before Attempting to Boot With This CD"

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So, since I never noticed that warning before, I always assumed that a reboot would do the trick. Not so apparently.

Thanks again and good luck.

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@ All - My question seems unanswered. Using WinPE how do you create a Macrium recovery?
I have Theog's suggestion but Macrium's help does not seem to do that. They want to use the disc. I wish I knew of someone with Macrium who successfully used the Win PE recovery disc without a work around.

I use Macrium Standard Edition.
It works good.
Here are some tutorial pictures I made:

View attachment 29258


View attachment 29260

View attachment 29261

Very easy to use.
A 64 GB usb drive should suffice.

To restore the image insert the usb & restart & choose Macrium from the 2 options & let it work till it is done.
Simple. :)

@David - Which of the 2 discs do you use? I use the Linux disc and it has not failed me in over 20 recoveries. I was curious about the WinPE disc with the advent of UEFI and Win 8.1 etc

I use WinPE on a 64 GB USB drive.
In fact I just completed making an image of all local drives.
Only took 2 & half hours this time.

I really don't know what you mean by "2 discs".
I just plug in the usb drive & proceed with making the image.

The usb should be given a Quick Format before using it.
 

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@2cents -I am happy for you. It says power off and you should . I am lucky that with the Linux I can just reboot but will begin to follow instructions to avoid trouble.
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