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Windows 8 File History - Confusion / Possible Problem

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    Windows 8 File History - Confusion / Possible Problem


    I have started to use File History for a while now. I used to love it because of its ease of use. I ran into a problem recently though when I ran out of room on my backup drive and needed to free some up.

    I went into the advanced settings and cleaned up all backups except the last one. I figured Its all backed up, nothing really has changed on my current running disk, so why should I need countless backup dates. So I removed all backups except the latest backup.

    Well after I did this, I realized the "Latest Backup" did "NOT" contain what should have been a "FULL" Backup. This seems to be a flaw in the backup software. Removing all backups except the latest backup should have moved all current versions of the backups files up to the latest backup.

    Now Im sitting with a backup that is missing files that should be present. Performing a manual backup doesnt back these files up either. For some reason the file history doesnt think it needs to back these files up.

    My only option now to get a full backup is to completely delete my backup and reset up the file history.


    Has anyone else had this issue?

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Were the missing files part of the original file history set? When you removed the original backup for it, it may have wiped all instances of those files.

    Also I just found out, if you do a Windows backup, it shuts off File History. SO if you used Windows Backup at any time between the time you made the File History and now, it would have interfered with the File History.

    If you still have the files you need, then I'd delete all histories and do em again from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by changedsoul View Post
    I have started to use File History for a while now. I used to love it because of its ease of use. I ran into a problem recently though when I ran out of room on my backup drive and needed to free some up.

    I went into the advanced settings and cleaned up all backups except the last one. I figured Its all backed up, nothing really has changed on my current running disk, so why should I need countless backup dates. So I removed all backups except the latest backup.

    Well after I did this, I realized the "Latest Backup" did "NOT" contain what should have been a "FULL" Backup. This seems to be a flaw in the backup software. Removing all backups except the latest backup should have moved all current versions of the backups files up to the latest backup.

    Now Im sitting with a backup that is missing files that should be present. Performing a manual backup doesnt back these files up either. For some reason the file history doesnt think it needs to back these files up.

    My only option now to get a full backup is to completely delete my backup and reset up the file history.


    Has anyone else had this issue?
    All that you describe makes sense; in that, those files are probably incremental backups. You might be better served to switch to a (periodic) full system image backup strategy. If interested, you can download Macrium Reflect Free which has the ability to perform scheduled backups or you can just simply use the Windows 7 Recovery option (in Win 8) to make unscheduled system image backups as required. Hope this helps.
    Good luck.

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    MD
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    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    QUOTE=XweAponX;262044]Were the missing files part of the original file history set? When you removed the original backup for it, it may have wiped all instances of those files.

    Also I just found out, if you do a Windows backup, it shuts off File History. SO if you used Windows Backup at any time between the time you made the File History and now, it would have interfered with the File History.

    If you still have the files you need, then I'd delete all histories and do em again from scratch.[/QUOTE]

    >>If I understand you, using Windows imaging program while the file history is on, causes a problem with file history.
    I am glad you pointed this out as I was about to use file history but have a Win. image on my external hard drive.
    This sounds like a flaw, in a way, as no one can know this intuitively.
    I also have more current images with Macrium which will not interfere with File history, I assume.
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    Windiow 8


    Yes the missing files were part of the original first file history backup. I resorted to deleting all history and doing another full file history backup. I have never done a windows backup other than using file history, so this is not my issue.

    As a test, after my newly created File History backup, I made a change to some files, then did another backup. I then deleted all backups but the latest one. What I found was it works as it is supposed to work. I had all my current files. So I have no idea why I was missing files in my backups before.

    The only thing I can think of is when I am over wifi and I get messages saying "Reenter your credentials". Perhaps the inability of the file history to backup caused some corruption in how it knows which files need backed up?

    Its working as of now, but Ill keep a closer eye on it and see if I cant pin point what is causing the issue.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter2 View Post
    If I understand you, using Windows imaging program while the file history is on, causes a problem with file history.
    I am glad you pointed this out as I was about to use file history but have a Win. image on my external hard drive.
    This sounds like a flaw, in a way, as no one can know this intuitively.
    I also have more current images with Macrium which will not interfere with File history, I assume.
    You can use File History or Windows File Recovery, but not both at the same time. If you use a 3rd party imaging program, I'll assume it does not interfere with the Windows programs, unless it replaces them.

    So, if you'd rather use File History, then you can make the full backup with Macrium.
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    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Hello
    I do appreciate this information and will make good use of it. Thank you for writing.
    Peter
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