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8.1 boot time

  1. #11


    South Coast NSW, Australia
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    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Well, I've found that 8.1 boots faster.

    But there's a caveat...

    Both my Windows 7 and Windows 8 installs weigh-in at over 180GB, the Win 8.1 setup is only 55GB, so there's nowhere near as much to start. It's a much leaner setup.

    Also, there's no 3rd-party stuff running at start-up, unlike in W8.


    Wenda.
    Last edited by Wenda; 05 Jul 2013 at 22:26.

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  2. #12


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    I'm more surprised at your Vista boot time, than the W8 boot time.

    I've never seen a Vista machine boot up faster than 90s.
    I've only seen about 4 or 5 Vista machines though (2 of those were laptops and they always seem to be a lot slower than desktops).
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  3. #13


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    I found Windows Boot Time Utility (Boot Timer) here: Measure Windows 7 Startup or Boot Time with Windows Boot Timer | WinVistaClub
    Great, Thanx. Gonna check it now!
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  4. #14


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    90 seconds for my Media Machine, heh. My Main PC, it takes so long to boot that Boot Timer don't even run! 5 minutes total, because of all of the USB drives I have connected maybe.


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  5. #15


    The thread is meaningless, unless some parameters are adhered to. The actual speed (CPU.ETC.) must, in the first instance, be a consideration. Are you dual booting? Is this from a cold start? It is ridiculous to compare the operation, in terms of speed, when using an SSD. At what stage do you consider the desktop is ready?
    On the last, JF1450's post is significant.
    "There is still a ton of disk crunching going on after that 8 seconds. Microsoft is pulling a fast one (no pun intended) throwing that login screen up so fast. The OS is hardly ready to use at that point. Just like everything else with the 8 UI, all fluff."

    I consider the desktop to be ready, when HD activity has ceased. This can also depend on your customisation. How many automatic updates do you have running, for example. I have a couple.
    I bypass the login, but, on arrival at the desktop, HD activity goes on for a further 10 seconds. This has been the case since Windows 7,.It is one way in which MS managed to achieve such remarkable, but only apparent, improvements in startup speed.

    Whatever I do to improve things, on four different computers, no hibernation and a cold start, I have never succeeded in beating a figure of around 1 minute to 90 seconds.
    But, having waffled all that, why worry about the startup time? I only do it once a day, sometimes even less than that. I am not so busy that I cannot spare a couple of minutes in my working day.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 480
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    @SIW2
    Drivers are different, services are different, so it's like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to troubleshoot your boot, create a boot trace and upload it somewhere.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    I consider the desktop to be ready, when HD activity has ceased.
    The reason there is still disk activity is not because it's not ready, it's because Windows "pre-caches" commonly used data in anticipation of you using it. It monitors what you normally do and loads those files and data into memory. this is called SuperFetch:

    Windows Vista I/O technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This has nothing to do with whether the desktop is ready or not, you can still run apps.

    Of course if you have a lot of startup apps, then that will increase your load time, but that has nothing to do with the OS.. And any measure of boot time should not include those.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 480
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    This has nothing to do with whether the desktop is ready or not, you can still run apps.

    Of course if you have a lot of startup apps, then that will increase your load time, but that has nothing to do with the OS.. And any measure of boot time should not include those.
    It does include those, the phase is called PostBoot. Although Windows 8 takes a slightly different approach by automatically spreading the launch time of startup programs, so they don't start at the same time. IIRC, not all of them make into PostBoot, as measured by Windows 8 / WPT.

    Here's a typical Windows 8 boot with startup programs filtered, using my PC as an example:

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    Explorer starts at 21s, then no startup programs launch for another 15 seconds to give the OS processes time to load without competing with startup programs. Then comes the delayed startup of programs.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    You can't count third party apps against the start time of the OS. That's just wrong. It's like complaining that your mail gets delivered to slowly because it takes you 20 minutes to walk to the mailbox.
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    I consider the desktop to be ready, when HD activity has ceased.
    The reason there is still disk activity is not because it's not ready, it's because Windows "pre-caches" commonly used data in anticipation of you using it. It monitors what you normally do and loads those files and data into memory. this is called SuperFetch:

    Windows Vista I/O technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This has nothing to do with whether the desktop is ready or not, you can still run apps.

    Of course if you have a lot of startup apps, then that will increase your load time, but that has nothing to do with the OS.. And any measure of boot time should not include those.
    I am well aware of the booting process and the superfetch facility. I saw no reason to mention it, as it is normally on, from first installation, by default. Fact is, on my computers, many times, if I attempt to open a program, particularly my mailbox or internet browser, I can run into stalling difficulties. This is because, simply, it is NOT ready. But you do remind me of another factor - available Ram.
    The point I am trying to make here is the comparison of boot times, which will vary according to the factors I have indicated.
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