Solved Full amount of ram not available

betterinblue

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Hello,

Haven't needed help from you guys in a while. I'm even using windows 8 now. Your advice was so good the last time.. I'm back.

Ok so I have a brand new kingston 4gb ram chip installed on my ecs p-45-t black series board. It replaced a 1gb chip. My other chips all say 1.8v this new one is 1.95.

According to my board manual, the board may only take 2gb chips, that contradicts its 16gb max capacity it boldly advertises. So I threw a dart. Now its telling me that I only have 7gb's one gigabyte more than before but I technically just added 3.

So far I have increased my memory voltage in the blue setup screen you get when pressing delete to 1.95 to see if it would fix this. It has not. I also just downloaded two bios files that I have not loaded.

I wait to hear from you again.

Thanks
 

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Looks like the new chip is incompatible with the old ones.

It seems ddr2 667 and 800 are supported, 4 slots, up to 4 GB in all slots BUT only if the chips are identical (same manufacturer and specs) that would guarantee the full capacity and stability. Voltage would have to be the same for stability.

I looked here:
ECS Web Site > P45T-A (V1.0)
Is that the right motherboard?

You get 7GB instead of 9? Means you had 6GB initially

Sounds weird for RAM, usually jumping from 4GB to 6GB but to 8GB would be the best bet. Doubling capacity with each upgrade is ideal: 4GB, 8GB, 16GB...

I'm not an expert but when it comes to RAM, I never had issues: jumped from 2GB to 4GB and from 4GB to 8GB on different pc's.

The full size isn't always what you get from 6GB...
You should try and remove one chip of 2GB (one you think is the baddest in the setup) and remain with 4GB then insert the newer kingston of 4GB and you should get 8GB.

If that doesn't help, the voltage or frequencies incompatibilities still remain and you might get another identical kingston to replace the older (smaller) chips.

I know from upgrades that some older chips get (scarified) removed from the newer setup due to incompatibilities.

I hope you get some extra advice from others here and good luck in fixing this issue.

Cheers!
 

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Yes Mine is the ecs p45t. getting ddr2 ram is so hard already. Now I have to replace every chip? so much for a upgrade. this one is a kingston hyperX. the rest are generic
 

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Crucial is telling me that my 4gb chip is a 2gb. My question now is, if I get chip of the same brand but not necessarily the same size will the issue be resolved?
 

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    ECS P45T-A
    Memory
    6,00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 333MHz
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    1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 5800 Series
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
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    Generic PnP Monitor
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    800x600@85Hz
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    74GB SAMSUNG HD083GJ ATA Device
    1863GB Seagate ST2000DL003-9VT166 ATA Device
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    750watt
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    Antec One
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Crucial is telling me that my 4gb chip is a 2gb. My question now is, if I get chip of the same brand but not necessarily the same size will the issue be resolved?

Download the scanner:

Use the Crucial System Scanner software to find out what type of memory is in your computer

Run it.

The results appear in your browser:

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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
Crucial is telling me that my 4gb chip is a 2gb. My question now is, if I get chip of the same brand but not necessarily the same size will the issue be resolved?

Different size is not the ideal solution, the issue is different voltages. Getting them the same size and manufacturer is best.

Mixing Crucial with Kingston... not sure if it will work. It should, but since you've already had issues you better be careful. That's an older board. DDR2 is getting expensive again.

Do as you like but if you already have a 4GB Kingston, then I'd get another 4GB Kingston to solve the problem.
4 slots available: Put the chips in slot 0 and 2 or or 1 and 3 to get dual channel performance.

I assume this will be cheaper than a full kit from Crucial.
 

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    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
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