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HELP - Samsung Magician has stopped defrag

  1. #1


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    HELP - Samsung Magician has stopped defrag


    Can anyone please tell me how do I turn the defrag and optimize back on?

    I need some help.
    I am running Win 8 Pro.
    My set up has 2 x 650 GB WD Black hard drives and a Samsung 840 (non pro) for the boot drive.

    I have run the latest Samsung Magician, however the BIG problem is that it has stopped the windows 8 Defrag program.

    I reinstalled Win 8 and all was OK, (now for the bit about me being thick -- ) I thought I would try the old version of Samsung Magician, and Bu**er me if has not only done the same thing again, turned off defrag and optimize, I am just unable to open defrag in order to defrag my WD drives.

    I do not really want to reinstall Windows 8 again unless I have to, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone knows how to switch defrag bag on again.

    Thanks in advance
    Syd

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  2. #2


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Don't DEFRAG an SSD --just THINK for a minute --what does defrag attempt to do. It basically tries to re-arrange the files so the bits of it are all next to each other rather than spread all over the disk.

    This is 100% irrelevant in SSD's since there are NO moving parts so access time in spinning the disk to read all the bits of the file into storage is NOT an issue with an SSD.

    In fact these days it's rarely if ever necessary to defrag a spinner either --just back it up (image it) with something like Acronis and restore it again. Unless you are deliberately doing a sector by sector dump and restore the disk will be "re-arranged" automatically by the restore program.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #3


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    Win 8 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Don't DEFRAG an SSD --just THINK for a minute --what does defrag attempt to do. It basically tries to re-arrange the files so the bits of it are all next to each other rather than spread all over the disk.

    This is 100% irrelevant in SSD's since there are NO moving parts so access time in spinning the disk to read all the bits of the file into storage is NOT an issue with an SSD.

    In fact these days it's rarely if ever necessary to defrag a spinner either --just back it up (image it) with something like Acronis and restore it again. Unless you are deliberately doing a sector by sector dump and restore the disk will be "re-arranged" automatically by the restore program.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Windows 8 'should' automatically recognise which drives are spinners and which are SSD's. When it recognises the drive is an SSD, it 'should' retrim the drive, instead of defragmenting it when running Defragment and Optimise Drives.

    Note: I say 'should', because the very first time it ran on my PC I was watching what it was doing and noticed that it actually carried out a defrag. After that one time it then reverted to re-trimming, but I never did find out why it defragged the first time.
    Last edited by ARC1020; 23 Mar 2013 at 18:05.
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  4. #4


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    Win 8 64-bit


    OP, I don't have Samsung SSD Magician installed, however looking at a screenshot it shows a 'Tune' and 'Untune' button. What does the 'Untune' button do?

    Click image for larger version


    Someone in this forum also received an email reply from Samsung regarding the SSD Magician on Windows 8 in the following post:
    Reply from Samsung about drive optimzation a SSD in Win 8
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