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Which imaging apps support UEFI, GPT and Secure Boot?

  1. #51


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    Ray, Toshiba has latest BIOS and I don't see a UEFI update on Support Downloads webpage for Satellite C55-A5300. Win7 x64 installer hangs on boot animation in UEFI boot.
    You would need to call Toshiba, to find out what update is for.

    A lot of OEM manufacturers are locking the UEFI/BIOS firmware to UEFI install windows 8 only.

    It is what I personally call a faulty UEFI/BIOS firmware chip.


    If you had a PC with Windows 8 Pro Pre-install, which would have downgrade right to Windows 7, but only to install in Legacy, UEFI mode is down to the OEM manufacturers.

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    Can I downgrade the software?
    Instead of using the Windows 8 Pro software, you may use one of the following earlier versions: Windows 7 Professional or Windows Vista Business.

    This agreement applies to your use of the earlier versions. If the earlier version includes different components, any terms for those components in the agreement that come with the earlier version apply to your use of such components. Neither the manufacturer or installer, nor Microsoft, is obligated to supply earlier versions to you. You must obtain the earlier version separately. At any time, you may replace an earlier version with Windows 8 Pro. To enable downgrade on this computer to Windows 7, you must change the settings to boot into legacy BIOS mode. If the BIOS setting is not changed back to native UEFI mode boot prior to installing Windows 8 Pro, Windows 8 Pro will install; however, the following Windows 8 Pro functionalities will not work as they rely on UEFI mode boot:

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  2. #52


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    Win7


    Am able to install Windows 7 x64 to shrink space from within the Factory GPT Windows 8 install, running Sources>Setup. This is not optimal because I would not normally want an Win7 install that's not on C.

    Strange, it started install, copied files, then at reboot hung again on 7 boot animation. Is the default DVD installer missing an .efi boot file?

    Going to try flash stick install with .efi file modification now. Does Rufus do this for you, or is it done manually as given in UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows?
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  3. #53


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    Win7


    Decided to take laptop back to Best Buy due to crappy sound and keyboard. Recovered factory install onto drive using Macrium backup. Then thought I'd run actual Factory Recovery to get it ready for new user but it says File Not Found. Is there a way to restore the link on UEFI? If not I doubt they'll even notice since I believe Geek Squad rehabs these returns.
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  4. #54


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    Decided to take laptop back to Best Buy due to crappy sound and keyboard. Recovered factory install onto drive using Macrium backup. Then thought I'd run actual Factory Recovery to get it ready for new user but it says File Not Found. Is there a way to restore the link on UEFI? If not I doubt they'll even notice since I believe Geek Squad rehabs these returns.
    Windows 7 or Windows 8 version?
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  5. #55


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    Win7


    Windows 8. I still have the Macrium and Paragon full disk images, and the Win7 image of just EFI and C.

    Ray, I now see why you insisted on making Recovery Disks. But I considered 6 disks a mess for a laptop I only wanted to test.

    Disk Mgmt is showing 100% empty on all partitions except C, even when unhiding System and Hidden files. But EFI partition must be working if it's booting, correct? Yet there are no Advanced Options for reboot except for using an EFI media.
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  6. #56


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    Paragon 12 & Windows full disk images, will Restore a working Recovery Partition, Macrium is unknown never used.

    Is the Macrium you used a Windows 8 version?

    All hidden partitions show as empty in DM.
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  7. #57


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    Win7


    I have a Paragon Partition Manager 12 image I can use.

    I called BB which says it doesn't matter if I run Recovery to remove User account or not, since they reimage returns before reselling anyway.
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  8. #58


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    I have a Paragon Partition Manager 12 image I can use.
    That should work OK.
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  9. #59


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I thought the last Macrium release (5.1) supports these formats. But you have to make a new WinPE CD. You can get the .iso from my Skydrive.
    Can I use the above Macrium disk to back up a Toshiba Win8 GPT Hard drive for which I have disabled Secure Boot to try to install Win7 to test it, then if necessary to restore the entire HD?

    I don't really want to make the Toshiba back up disks, and Win8 backup imaging only includes EFI partition and C, for some reason ignoring the Recovery partition.

    I may take this laptop back to Best Buy so need a reliable backup in case just deleting the Win7 test partition to Extend C again is not enough, or running Recovery from HD won't work for some reason after I set it all back and re-enable Secure Boot.
    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    Decided to take laptop back to Best Buy due to crappy sound and keyboard. Recovered factory install onto drive using Macrium backup. Then thought I'd run actual Factory Recovery to get it ready for new user but it says File Not Found. Is there a way to restore the link on UEFI? If not I doubt they'll even notice since I believe Geek Squad rehabs these returns.
    If you used the above, the above has no Windows 8 support.
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  10. #60


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    If you use the appropriate CD, Win PE for UEFI it will walk you through the steps. If you have the old BIOS use the Linux CD and boot to disc.
    If the above is correct, do you follow 'change settings'>'recovery'>'adv'>'trouble shoot'>uefi, with the disc in, to boot to the disc to recover an image in Win 8.1?
    I am unsure what to do with the Win PE disc in to access the recovery screen?
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