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  1. #11


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    64-bit Windows 10


    A clean install will delete everything on the HDD, then format it during installation.

    If you were wanting to do a clean install of Windows 8, then yes you would delete all partitions until the disk is "unallocated", then click on Next to continue the installation.

    Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade

    The screenshot above for the desktop shows that you indeed deleted the "System Reserved" partition. If you don't want to do a clean install of a Windows 8 upgrade using the link above, then I would recommend to run an Automatic Repair at boot to fix your boot manager. You may need to run it up to 3 times if it is unable to fix it until then.

    On the laptop, you could create a system image and save it to a separate hard drive (ex: external). This system image would include the "Windows C: " and "Reserved" partitions. This way if you ever needed to, you could do a system image recovery to the laptop to restore it exactly how it was when the image was created.

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  2. #12


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Win 8 repair


    Hi Shawn
    If I have this right, my laptop is fine as it has the system reserved partition.
    I was hoping the deletion I made could be fixed on the desktop, and thank you for the very detailed directions to do so.
    I shall work on this and hopefully come back with good news.
    I have been restoring from the external drives to the pcs successfully as is without the reserved partition but wish to include the reserved partition .
    I think I need this reserved partition to transfer the image to a new hard drive if necessary.
    Thank you
    Peter
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  3. #13


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    automatic repair


    Hi Shawn
    I tried automatic repair about 5 times to no avail. I don't know if Dell + OEM has anything to do with it.
    Settings>change pc settings>general etc. I had no disc in the bay.
    I have the old BIOS from my upgrade.

    ****So If I want to transfer to a new hard drive from my external drive, bottom line, can it be done like I do with Macrium when I do an image recovery to this pc?

    Peter
    Last edited by Peter2; 21 Feb 2013 at 11:51. Reason: asterisk
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  4. #14


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    The "Automatic Repair" will not restore the "System Reserved" partition. "Automatic Repair" was suggested to help make sure that your Windows will still be bootable since the "System Reserved" partition was deleted. That's all.

    If the desktop is running and booting fine, then you do not have to worry about the "System Reserved" partition unless you just wanted to restore it.

    If you do want to restore the "System Reserved" partition on the desktop, then since it was the 100 MB size from a previous Windows, you would really need to do a clean reinstall of Windows 8 to get the proper 350 MB size for the "System Reserved" partition.

    Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade

    If you do the clean install, be sure to back up anything that you do not want to lose first since you would be deleting all partitions on the desktop until the whole disk shows as "unallocated", then clicking Next to install Windows 8.
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  5. #15


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Win 8 issues


    Neither pc has the win 8 system reserved partition.
    I now understand this all better.

    The clean install would be to delete all partitions until only the one I want to put Win 8 on exists which is the ?800 GB unallocated one, then click next.

    As it stands I can transfer the Macrium images from my external drives to either the existing pcs as they are or to a new hard drive.
    I think this is all correct - feel free to correct, if you wish.

    I know I have taken up an inordinate amount of time but I did not mean to take advantage, only to understand and not leave loose ends.

    Thank you
    Peter
    P.S. the partition in question was deleted remotely by a Dell tech some time ago.
    Last edited by Peter2; 21 Feb 2013 at 15:40. Reason: amend
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  6. #16


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    64-bit Windows 10


    It's no problem Peter.

    Macrium Reflect images can be restored to any hard drive that is large enough to fit on, but it must be restored to the same computer (motherboard) it was created on.

    The clean install option is of course only if you wanted to install Windows 8 from scratch and start over. When you install Windows 8 (without UEFI) to an "unallocated" hard drive, it will create two partitions automatically during installation. The first one is the 350 MB "System Reserved", and the second is the C:\ for Windows 8.
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  7. #17


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    solved


    Shawn
    I really appreciate your sticking with me to resolve the fine hairs.
    I understand and will amend my learning folder.
    The hypotheticals, i.e., UEFI and motherboard I will address at that time.
    You have a great forum and I know it takes patience for a skilled person trying to instruct an unskilled person but I tried to ask what was not intuitive.
    Thank you again,
    Peter
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  8. #18


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    You're most welcome Peter. Please feel free to ask for whatever you need help with.
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  9. #19


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Win 8


    I will, Shawn, and thank you.
    I read your article lauding this OS and had to join in as I think it ranks up there with XP and 7.
    Being different is not typically accepted but I have a good feeling about Win 8 -even at my level.
    Peter
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