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Windows 7 deletes Windows 8 restore Points

  1. #11


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Surely not? Encrypting entire drives just so that System Restore works has to be the most painful way of accessing what was once simple and easy.

    Oh, my bad, it's not a problem, it's a feature.

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  2. #12


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    Windows 8

    7 Hours of Working with MS-no fix


    After multiple attempts I finally got someone with MS technical support. It ended up being escalated after trying many different things.I have cauliflower ear from being on the phone so long. My poor old computer has been restarted so many times it was on the verge of smoking.
    Higher support finally said that it MIGHT work correctly if Windows 8 was installed in dual boot by using a full version install disk. Personally, I do not think so as common sense tells me that the system restore feature in an upgrade version of Win8 is exactly the same as system restore in a full version. When Win8 is done as a fresh install using a full version disk as opposed to a clean install using an upgrade iso (keeping no files and full re-format) the OS is exactly the same,so No, I do not think it will make any difference. I really didn't want to give up on resolving this issue but I'm not going out & buying the full version cd just to test their idea.

    The technician told me that MS does not support dual boot. He said that support would have to come from te community, not MS. Actually I was kind of surprised he tried to give me any free support at all. He said that Win 8 should be the main operating system with Windows 7 set up as a virtual machine. He did say that using Bitlocker should resolve the issue but although my machine is only 2 years old it does not have TPM so I couldn't enable Bitlocker. Even if it did have TPM my opinion is that Bitlocker is not the solution. It just opens doors for more serious issues down the road. Since I have my system backed up in case of emergency I guess that , against my normal character, I will holler "uncle" and give up on this. Hopefully someone, somewhere can come up with a solution.

    I was hoping to stick it out until a real solution was reached because I know so many people have this issue. Sorry, folks, I tried.
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  3. #13


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    You did good. But the man is right - Virtual is the way to go - but with /8 - not /7. Have a look at this:

    VMware Player - a Windows 8 Demo - Windows 7 Forums
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  4. #14


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Of course Windows 7 Ultimate (and Enterprise) share the ability to boot from VHD natively with Windows 8, so you do not need to suffer the overheads of running in a totally virtual environment, and all the resources on the physical machine can be made available to the booted OS for any of these Windows versions and editions.

    The VHD of the alternative OS need not be mounted when the other OS is running, thus overwriting of the Restore points would be impossible. It also means that complicated partitioning would not be required. It would probably be best to have the system partition set up with Windows 8, and the partition holding the VHDs themselves could be separate allowing for easy snapshots of the all the VHDs to be made for backup purposes in the event of some snarl-up.
    A set-up such as this does not mean that the Windows 8 and Windows 7 systems could not exchange data, or that one system could not be modified from the other, just that one Windows version could not automatically affect the integrity of the other.
    It also seems possible that older and non-native-VHD-boot Windows versions can be made to run from VHDs as well:
    Install and Boot Unsupported for Native Boot OS from VHD - Tutorials - reboot.pro
    So the world is your oyster for Bare-metal multibooting systems now.
    Last edited by fafhrd; 09 Feb 2013 at 01:38.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8 Pro


    The restore point created by Win8 refuses to allow the change of owner under security and will not allow the copy of a restore point; is there any way to override this problem?
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  6. #16


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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by rdwray View Post
    The restore point created by Win8 refuses to allow the change of owner under security and will not allow the copy of a restore point; is there any way to override this problem?
    Make images, then you can do that.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 301
    Windows 8 Pro


    I keep a disk clone, but it would be much simpler if MS would fix the problem. The issue of coping a restore point is a shortcut, but they even blocked that. The more I use Win8, the more unhappier I become.
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  8. #18


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by rdwray View Post
    I keep a disk clone, but it would be much simpler if MS would fix the problem. The issue of coping a restore point is a shortcut, but they even blocked that. The more I use Win8, the more unhappier I become.
    Why don't you send a note to MS and ask for them to fix it.
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  9. #19


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Why don't you send a note to MS and ask for them to fix it.
    I believe that someone here has already done that and Microsoft doesn't have an answer.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 301
    Windows 8 Pro


    Do I have this straight: In a dual boot system (Win7 & Win8) the restore files are stored into the root of the first system installed; in the case of Win7 being installed first, the restore for Win8 is the "secondary" OS and Win7 controls the file and sees a Win8 file as hostile when it is booted?

    If this is true, all MS has to do is change their algorithm and allow each operating system to store the file instead of having a master. MS spends too much time trying to copy Linux and taking the power from the user; if the user messes up, it is their problem - GIVE OUR POWER BACK.
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