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New to SSDs: best practices for Win8 optimization?

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    New to SSDs: best practices for Win8 optimization?


    Hi everyone. I recently found some terrific deals on a few SSDs (two Intel X25-M 80GBs and a Samsung 830 120GB) to rejuvenate our not-so-new PCs, while taking advantage of the cheap Win8 upgrade offer. I've google and read around, found some conflicting info, and am wondering what the expert opinion is on current best practices to optimize SSD usage? I'm not necessarily aiming for top-of-the-line benchmarking performance since these are ~4-5 yr old PCs, I just want to use them optimally as I can without screwing them up/wearing them out unnecessarily. I figure they can always be moved to another PC in the future when upgrading.

    PCs in question are all Win8 x64, either Core2 Quad or Athlon X2, have 4GB RAM, and have an HDD in addition to the SSD. Usage is web browsing, some MS Office, light Media Center usage.

    1. I've read a lot about moving the C:/Users folder to the secondary drive. It also looks like some folks say that with current SSDs, worries about overusing the drive by keeping User files on the SSD are largely overblown. Would you say it's best to move the entire User folder to the HDD, or just leave it on the SSD?

    2. hiberfil.sys. Is it best to disable hibernation and delete? None of these PCs use hibernation much (one is a laptop, the others are desktops), but I believe they all use hybrid sleep. Again, looking for the best balanced approach: not too worried about losing a desktop session if the power goes out, minimizing the # of watts used is nice, but I don't want to unnecessarily wear out the SSD.

    3. pagefile.sys. Is it best to keep the pagefile on the SSD, move it to the HDD? I've read where some suggest just keeping a minimal-size pagefile on the SSD or disabling paging altogether, but 4GB of RAM isn't massive nowadays. Is there a current consensus on this?

    4. TRIM/cleanup/maintenance. I've got BIOS set to RAID, as I don't have explicit AHCI settings on these computers. My understanding is Win8 is supposed to be pretty good about SSD maintenance. I see it sets itself to do a once-weekly optimization. Do you recommend anything beyond this, either in optimization frequency, or using other tools in addition to Win8's?

    Since this is my first post, thanks for taking the time to read and respond. Looks like a great site, I appreciate the terrific tutorials you guys have put together, am still reading up. Thanks!!
    Last edited by 6forty; 03 Feb 2013 at 12:16.

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    My opinion:

    Let Windows 8 take care of it. Don't move anything.
    Leave defrag alone, it will do trim instead.
    Leave the page file alone so it can also benefit from SSD speed.
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    Germany/Florida
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    ad 1) If you have room on the SSD for the user folders, you might as well leave them there. Most of us move them to a spinner because of the size restrictions on the SSD.

    ad 2) I always delete the hiberfile. Yes, in Windows 8 you will lose hybrid sleep, but given the speed of the SSD, that is neither here nor there. Saves as much space on the SSD as the size of your RAM.

    ad 3) keep the pagefile on the SSD but reduce it to 2GBs. Works well.

    ad 4) You should be OK with that setup.

    If you plan to migrate your current OS to the SSD, here is a tutorial:
    SSD - Install and transfer the Operating System - Windows 7 Forums
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    Set recycle been to delete immediately instead of moving files to recycle bin they say is a good setting. I had my pagefile turned off on my Laptop and finally it keep telling me it was needed. S I turned it back on, using Windows 8 Pro with 2 120 gig SSD. I use D drive to back up my C drive with stuff that would take up too much space on the drive like old pictures ,document, downloads etc.
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    I used xcopy to copy user folders to a spinner.

    It makes more sense if you download a normal amount of programs, files, music and/or movies.

    You won't be needlessly writing to the ssd, and taking up space for no reason.

    It doesn't effect anything in terms of how you use or navigate windows either.
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    Arnhem, The Netherlands
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    I didn't do anything special. Just relocated most of my User folders to a HDD due to the fact that I won't store my movies onto a SSD .

    Other then that..... nothing. Let Windows select what it think is best for it. They know best is my motto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6forty View Post
    1. I've read a lot about moving the C:/Users folder to the secondary drive. It also looks like some folks say that with current SSDs, worries about overusing the drive by keeping User files on the SSD are largely overblown. Would you say it's best to move the entire User folder to the HDD, or just leave it on the SSD?
    I don't worry about it on my X25-M 80GB Gen 2. As long as you aren't running out of space due to the size of these folders, I wouldn't move them anywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6forty View Post
    2. hiberfil.sys. Is it best to disable hibernation and delete? None of these PCs use hibernation much (one is a laptop, the others are desktops), but I believe they all use hybrid sleep. Again, looking for the best balanced approach: not too worried about losing a desktop session if the power goes out, minimizing the # of watts used is nice, but I don't want to unnecessarily wear out the SSD.
    I disable hibernate because I don't use the feature and it takes up lots of disk space on the SSD. It boots fast enough without hybrid boot because of the SSD, so I don't care about that at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6forty View Post
    3. pagefile.sys. Is it best to keep the pagefile on the SSD, move it to the HDD? I've read where some suggest just keeping a minimal-size pagefile on the SSD or disabling paging altogether, but 4GB of RAM isn't massive nowadays. Is there a current consensus on this?
    On my Windows 7 desktop, I followed the adage of 1.5x the amount of RAM. So, since I have 8GB of RAM, that was 12GB of pagefile, which I didn't want on my SSD taking up space. On my work computers, which have 4GB of RAM and a single HDD, I set the pagefile to 2GB and leave it on the SSD.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6forty View Post
    4. TRIM/cleanup/maintenance. I've got BIOS set to RAID, as I don't have explicit AHCI settings on these computers. My understanding is Win8 is supposed to be pretty good about SSD maintenance. I see it sets itself to do a once-weekly optimization. Do you recommend anything beyond this, either in optimization frequency, or using other tools in addition to Win8's?
    Every few months I fire up the Intel Toolbox and run the SSD Optimizer. It only takes a few seconds and I honestly have never noticed any benefit to doing it. I let Windows take care of all other maintenance.
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    Just relocated most of my User folders to a HDD due to the fact that I won't store my movies onto a SSD
    Movies are big and bulky and can clog a small SSD in a jiffy. They play just as well from the HDD where I would put them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Just relocated most of my User folders to a HDD due to the fact that I won't store my movies onto a SSD
    Movies are big and bulky and can clog a small SSD in a jiffy. They play just as well from the HDD where I would put them.

    That's why I store them on a HDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Snoober View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Just relocated most of my User folders to a HDD due to the fact that I won't store my movies onto a SSD
    Movies are big and bulky and can clog a small SSD in a jiffy. They play just as well from the HDD where I would put them.

    That's why I store them on a HDD
    OK, then I misunderstood.
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