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Windows 8 - Windows 7 file recovery - System Repair Media

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    Windows 8.1

    Windows 8 - Windows 7 file recovery - System Repair Media


    Having recently purchased an Ultrabook, with Windows 8 (64), without a CD/DVD writer/reader, I have been investigating means of backing up my operating system.

    I have tried out the most popular programs, such as Acronis, and Paragon, which are reported as being compatible with Windows 8; but have found that they do not work, with Secure Boot enabled!

    Furthermore, even with Secure Boot disabled, I have not been able to boot, using a CD, via an external USB CD/DVD writer/reader!
    I can boot with Acronis, from a Flash drive, but only with Secure Boot disabled.

    My preference is not to play around with the BIOS - Enabling/Disabling Secure Boot!

    Given this, after further investigation, I have discovered the ability to produce an image, using the inclusive Windows 8 facility; namely, the inappropriately named "Windows 7 File Recovery"!

    Accessed via the Control Panel, this gives you the ability to create a "System Image" and a "System Repair Disc"; but not a "System Repair Flash Drive"!

    Having created a "System Image", and a "System Repair Disc", using this facility, I have discovered that my Ultrabook will not boot from the "System Repair Disc"! NOT even with "Secure Boot" disabled!

    Given that Acronis would only boot from a Flash Drive, I was wondering whether there was a method for creating the Recovery Media, for "Windows 7 File Recovery" on a Flash drive!

    I would be grateful for advice on this matter!

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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    I have tried out the most popular programs, such as Acronis, and Paragon, which are reported as being compatible with Windows 8; but have found that they do not work, with Secure Boot enabled!

    Paragon 12 has support for Windows 8 uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot enabled.

    PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning


    Having created a "System Image", and a "System Repair Disc", using this facility, I have discovered that my Ultrabook will not boot from the "System Repair Disc"! NOT even with "Secure Boot" disabled!

    That sounds like a bad burn, as the System Repair Disc will boot with Secure Boot enabled.
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  3. #3


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    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    Is your CD/DVD drive configured as a boot device on the bios? Also put it t the top of the list of devices.
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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Windows boot manager should be first boot device.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 27
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks for your comments!

    Windows Boot Manager is the default boot setting - Normally top of the boot sequence.
    I have tried setting the BIOS, such that CD/DVD is the first boot device
    Changing the order, makes no difference!

    The recovery CD created from the HP Spectre Ultrabook boots works OK, irrespective of the BIOS settings (Secure Boot enabled/disabled and irrespective of boot order settings).

    However, CD/DVD Recovery media created by
    Windows 8 (Windows 7 File Recovery)
    Acronis 2013,
    Paragon Image Backup for Windows 8.
    Paragon Backup & Recover 2012.
    Do not initiate a boot into their respective programs - That is with Secure Boot Enabled and disabled!

    Acronis have admitted that that Secure Boot must be disabled, before their media will work.

    However, I can only boot with the Acronis Recovery Media installed on a Flash Drive - Secure Boot disabled

    My first thoughts were that there must be something wrong with the external CD/DVD writer/Reader, but since the HP Recovery CD works, I think that this must not be the case!

    The strange thing is that the
    Acronis Flash Drive DOES initiate boot up (with Secure Boot disabled)
    and that
    The Windows 8 media, created with Windows 7 File Recovery (Available, via Control Panel) DOES NOT

    Hence, my original question!

    I was wondering whether there was a method for creating the Recovery Media, for "Windows 7 File Recovery" on a Flash drive!
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  6. #6


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    Weird, I created a recovery disk with Windows File Recovery in Windows 8 and it boots. I don't use secure boot so it wasn't enabled when I created it or booted from it.
    Must be a quirk in your system.
    If you make the flash drive bootable then copy the files from the recovery CD will it work?
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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    If you're able to access the hard drive in your ultrabook, I'd say that the best thing you could do is get a second hard drive and do a complete image of your system. That way if anything goes amiss, it's far easier to recover and then re-image the corrupt hard drive. I use this 'swap and go' method with both my tablet and PC; hard drives are cheap, as are USB Disk Docks. I also use Paragon, as I found Acronis a pain.
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    Posts : 27
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks for your comments, Guys; food for thought - A lot to think about!

    Think I will try re-burning a Windows 8 (Windows 7 File Recovery) media again; perhaps from my Windows 8 desktop, as well as from my Ultrabook!

    I have never experience problems before, with restoring image; just with this Secure boot! Acronis, Paragon, and Windows 8, have all worked!
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  9. #9


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Theo
    However, CD/DVD Recovery media created by
    Windows 8 (Windows 7 File Recovery)
    Acronis 2013,
    Paragon Image Backup for Windows 8.
    Paragon Backup & Recover 2012.
    Do not initiate a boot into their respective programs - That is with Secure Boot Enabled and disabled!
    Are using the Paragon 12 WinPE bootable CD or the Linux bootable CD?

    As the Paragon 12 WinPE bootable CD will boot with Secure Boot Enabled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theo
    Think I will try re-burning a Windows 8 (Windows 7 File Recovery) media again; perhaps from my Windows 8 desktop, as well as from my Ultrabook!
    Is your desktop uEFI?

    As Windows 8 will only make a Repair CD that supports uEFI, GPT, Secure Boot from PC setup with uEFI.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 27
    Windows 8.1


    Problem resolved! That is Recovery using Windows 8 method! "Windows 7 File Recovery"!

    For some obscure reason, the failures only occurred, with the recovery media on a CD (I created two). In desperation, I tried creating the "Windows 7 File Recovery" media on a Sony DVD ROM (Two off again) and this time it works!

    Sorry to trouble you guys
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