Run Automatic Repair Any Other Way?

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Can Automatic Repair be run other than through use of an appropriate start up medium or the Metro interface? Stated differently, can Automatic Repair be run from Command Prompt, the Control Panel, or some other more or less familiar Desktop-type procedure?
 

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Thanks much, but I am talking about Automatic Repair. It can be run at least from “Setting”s > “Change PC Settings” > “General” > “Advanced Startup” in Metro or via an appropriate start up medium (e.g., an Install DVD).
 

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Thanks Shawn; not quite what I am after. I think a better way to ask my question is as follows. Can Automatic Repair be run from Command Prompt, the Control Panel, or some other more or less familiar Desktop-type procedure? In this regard, I know that Automatic Repair can be run from the Metro interface (not including the Desktop), but that's not what I am interested in finding out about. :D
 
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znod,

Not that I'm aware of.

An "Automatic Repair" is the renamed "Startup Repair" from previous Windows, and needs to be done at boot.
 

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Right. But, when run from the Metro interface, boot occurs, and Automatic Repair (just) runs (i.e., no install medium, for example, need be used). I am wondering if, for example, there is a command-prompt command that would do the reboot and then run Automatic Repair similar to the way the Metro interface handles Automatic Repair. Alternatively, is there a Desktop equivalent of running Automatic Repair, as Metro runs it, hidden away (from me), for example, in the deepest recesses of the Control Panel or some other area of Win8 (ignoring the Metro interface).
 

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Thanks again very much. Your link is a good read, but it doesn't cover exactly what I am interested in. Please see my posts #5 and #7--where I try to clarify what I am trying to figure out.
 

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Right. But, when run from the Metro interface, boot occurs, and Automatic Repair (just) runs (i.e., no install medium, for example, need be used). I am wondering if, for example, there is a command-prompt command that would do the reboot and then run Automatic Repair similar to the way the Metro interface handles Automatic Repair. Alternatively, is there a Desktop equivalent of running Automatic Repair, as Metro runs it, hidden away (from me), for example, in the deepest recesses of the Control Panel or some other area of Win8 (ignoring the Metro interface).

If you have the 350 MB "System Reserved" partition, then that's why you didn't need the installation media to run the "Automatic Repair" at boot.

You could use the "Startup Options" shortcut below from the desktop that will boot the computer to the startup options screen where you can select Troubleshoot, Advanced options, and Automatic Repair.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4943-startup-options-menu-shortcut-create-windows-8-a.html
 

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Thanks for all you help, of course. The Startup-Options Menu shortcut is a good idea. But, unfortunately, it takes me right to an aspect of what I am trying to avoid--part of the Metro interface.
 

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It's going to be impossible to avoid the newer Metro UI to do an "Automatic Repair" since that is how Windows 8 does it.

I'm not sure what the fuss is about the Windows 8 Metro UI since it's no different than how it's done in the Windows 7 UI other than a different UI to do it in. :confused:
 

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No fuss. It's totally a matter of curiosity; just wondering if there is a way to do what metro does, WRT automatic repair, without invoking the Metro interface. I realize that the same thing happens using Metro vs using, for example, an OEM recovery partition under Win7.

I guess you could classify my quest under the heading of finding the easier ways to do some things in Win8. For example, why bother to go through Metro to do a reset when you eventually have to utilize some sort of install medium anyway? For the most part, it looks to me like the easier ways to do most of the "recovery-environment" items depend more on the individual than the interface (e.g., doing a system restore may be easier for some through Metro and others through one of the older methods of getting to system restore). Automatic repair is of sort of special interest to me because, ignoring the use of an appropriate start up medium, I can't find a non-Metro way of doing Automatic repair on my older machine (i.e., I, of course, obliterated it's recovery partition long ago).

There is another issue for me. I have no UEFI. So, I have been unable to determine what, if anything, the F keys typically do in relation to UEFI and a related OEM recovery partition (or whatever). I could always go buy an inexpensive Win8/UEFI lappy, to satisfy my curiosity, but I have resisted the temptation. There are too many computers around here. Bottom line: I think it might be useful to some to know (for purposes of idle curiosity if nothing else) if, for example, there is a magic key combination that will burgeon into a restart and the application of automatic repair--no matter how many other ways automatic repair can be accomplished (doesn't always sound so automatic does it?).

:D:D:D
 

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No worries. I just don't think there's a way around it. :(
 

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That's what I have come to believe too. Do you know of a read that would clarify the relationships--UEFI/F keys/OEM recovery partitions? And, it would be nice if it would deal with the place of F keys in the context of UEFI in general. My searches have turned up nothing of real value. I know that one problem is that the opportunity to use them can flash by too fast to be successful in using them in some cases given Win8 boot speed, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.

Please don't spend significant time searching for me. You have better things to do. Just let me know if you know off hand about a read.
 

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The F keys should work the same way, but the timing you have to press it with UEFI is not much. You gotta be real quick.

I'm afraid I don't know of any papers or articles to read on this as well though.
 

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Ahhh. You made things way easier knowing that they should do about the same things. Just to be sure. You are saying that some F key typically will take one into the "recovery environment" as before provided an OEM recovery partition is available. right????
 

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That depends on the motherboard, but with UEFI motherboards with an OEM Windows 8 PC, you would have this below instead. However, it's in the new Windows 8 Metro UI as well. :p

For UEFI Firmware settings:

Boot to Startup Options -> Troubleshoot -> Advanced options -> UEFI Firmware Settings

11881d1353866139-automatic-repair-run-windows-8-advanced-options.jpg



For Advanced "Startup settings" (Advanced Boot Options):

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4924-advanced-startup-settings-boot-windows-8-a.html

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I suppose that you could use the tutorial below to not use the new Windows 8 Metro UI at boot anymore.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5245-startup-options-enable-disable-windows-8-a.html
 

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    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
I see. Well, humph! As I recall, in Win7, F-whatever would get you to the recovery environment even if you could not start to Win7. Can you get to the first Metro-type screen shown above even if unable to boot into Win8. The Metro look may not be indicative. As you may recall, I started up to my 64-bit upgrade DVD yesterday. Well, all the "recovery environment" items were in Metro style.

I am enjoying the conversation, and I'll get back a time or so if you keep going. But, we will be leaving for Xmas eve dinner soon. Merry Xmas to you. I'll check back in a few more times before going.

PS I don't really mind going through Metro to get to, for example, automatic repair.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    64-bit Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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