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System Restore is "Legacy"

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    System Restore is "Legacy"


    According to Windows Secrets, Chpapter 11, System Restore is "Legacy" meaning somewhat obsolete. It would appear that the default is to have it turned off.

    Since Refresh and Reset either delete all your programs (desktop not Metro apps) or at least require they all be reinstalled it would seem that the "Legacy" System Restore is a much better way to get things working again if something goes wrong.

    Am I missing something here?

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    Hello Dave,

    System Restore is still turned on for the Windows 8 drive/partition by default. System Restore is for a completely different purpose than Refresh and Reset though.

    It really just depends on your needs, but I would say that System Restore can still be very help if you just needed to quickly undo what you just did by going back to a created restore point. Of course, you must create restore points before doing actions that may mess up your system to have them available. System Restore is a much less drastic restore option for it's purpose than using Refresh or Reset.


    System Restore takes your user account, system files, programs, registry back to how it was at the time the restore point was created. It doesn't affect the files in your user folders though.

    Refresh is sort of like doing a repair install in Windows 7 and Vista, but you will lose any installed 3rd party programs. You can also create a custom recovery image to refresh with instead. This more useful when there's not a fast fix available.

    Reset is basically just doing a clean install, but a little faster. This is more useful when nothing else is able to fix an issue.


    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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    Shawn,

    Yes, that's how I understand it. It looks like Windows 7 creates a restore point every time it does an update which seems like a nice safety net in case you don't create a restore point every time you install a program.

    Regards,

    Dave
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    Refresh and Reset are both sub-par compared to System Restore and system images.

    I consider them to be essentially useless to me personally.

    IMO, MS shouldn't have bothered with them, but beefed Sys-Restore and Sys-imaging up.

    The last thing I want is to have to reinstall all my programs simply to refresh the machine.

    I create a restore point whenever I make changes, and I sys-image at least monthly (usually
    more frequently).

    My Win 7 Ultimate setup was installed in early 2010, and has never been reinstalled, although
    It has been restored from an image many times. It's still absolutely rock-solid, and has carried
    the W8 CP as an upgrade install since March, without a problem.

    When I wanted to return to Win 7 last week, ALL I had to do was restore from an image, grab
    the latest updates, and I was good to go. AGAIN... :-)

    Trying to downplay and (no doubt eventually remove) System Restore and system imaging
    in Win 8 is, IMO, a far bigger faux pas than Metro ever was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Refresh and Reset are both sub-par compared to System Restore and system images.

    I consider them to be essentially useless to me personally.

    IMO, MS shouldn't have bothered with them, but beefed Sys-Restore and Sys-imaging up.

    The last thing I want is to have to reinstall all my programs simply to refresh the machine.

    Trying to downplay and (no doubt eventually remove) System Restore and system imaging
    in Win 8 is, IMO, a far bigger faux pas than Metro ever was.
    Refresh and Reset are good features when needed for what their purpose is for.

    You can't really compare Refresh and Reset to System Restore and system images since they all have their own different uses and purposes that they are helpful for.

    It's just a matter of what works best for you though, but it's great to have choices.
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    Choice is good, Brink, no argument there.

    Was just saying what works for me.

    But it won't necessarily suit others, you are correct. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Was just saying what works for me.

    No harm in that.
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Refresh and restore are there because a lot of people won't have made an image.

    MS aren't making it any easier by hiding the win sys img away - and it looks like they are planning on giving it the heave ho.
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    The thing that got me started on all this is an "important update" for windows 8 KB2769165 that simply refuses to install. It "installs" but when you reboot it says installing update then at 15% it gives up. It tries again and fails then says its reverting to the previous configuration and completes the reboot. Very strange....
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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    System Restore should never have been turned off by default. It is one of the most useful features ever provided in Windows.
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