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Startup programs won't start

  1. #11


    Posts : 6
    Win8x64


    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gbs View Post
    In my case, it was that I discovered that windows 8 does not run startup shortcuts that have runasadmin flags, either in the shortcut itself or as a compatibility flag.
    Good tip, learned something new today. Had a battle with some programs refusing to load at startup.
    Totally forgot i wrote in this thread.
    Late tip: If anyone uses metro/modern apps and wants to run admin apps at startup, use the task scheduler to launch them at logon with high privileges.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8.1.


    Quote Originally Posted by windows8woes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by liakou View Post
    UPDATE 2: So I discovered the source of this problem.
    The problem is caused by the windows 8 feature "Hybrid Shutdown".
    Once you turn it off every startup program starts normally, whether you shut down the PC, or restart it.
    So to anyone experiencing the same problem, do this:

    Go to Control panel->Power options and on the left side choices, click "Change what the power buttons do".
    On the new window, scroll down to "Shutdown settings" and you'll see an option "Turn on fast startup (recommended)".
    Uncheck this option and save changes. Now you can rest assured the problem is gone from the next time you start windows,
    everything starts as it should.
    In my case, it was that I discovered that windows 8 does not run startup shortcuts that have runasadmin flags, either in the shortcut itself or as a compatibility flag.

    Am I missing something? The account is an admin account, but for some reason, it keeps asking for admin rights, like for example, when I try to move something to the program files folder. I already turned off UAC. For applications, I have to strictly tell them to run as admin, otherwise they don't elevate themselves. Is this normal windows 8 behavior? Or is there a setting I have to change in order to make an already administrator, an actual administrator?

    edit:

    Nevermind, fixed it through the local security policy > local policies > security options and disabling
    "User Account Control: run all administrators in admin approval mode"

    Now, I am an administrator again, can run anything at startup, even elevated applications with any flags, can do anything I like. Windows is mine again.

    Nice hideout for the setting though, I'm wondering exactly which way microsoft is going with windows, if you dont want to concede users admin rights, thats what the standard account is for, any action that requires elevation goes through credential verification. Thats the normal behavior, windows 8, even as admin with uac disabled, you have to approve system changes. Not cool bro, I bought windows because its not mac os...

    Thus, for anybody having problems running stuff at startup, try disabling approval mode and tweaking the user account settings in the local security policy screen. These are my settings:



    Fineprint: metro apps do not work with UAC disabled. Mother of god... this operating system...
    I cannot for the life of me find the local security policy screen.
    Hi, I had problems with the same thing. What you can do is hit the windows key+r and type secpol.msc and click enter. That should do the trick.
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  3. #13

    In my Win 8.1 Basic I found a similar solution


    In my Win 8.1 Basic I don't have this options.
    I made this change in this way:

    1. Control Panel > User Accounts > Change User Account Control Settings > Never Notify
    2. Run > RegEdit:
      Set the key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ Policies \ System \ EnableLUA to 0.
      About this option read about it here: windows 8 - How do I make every program run as an admin? - Super User

    Thanks,
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  4. #14


    Posts : 15
    Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by liakou View Post
    UPDATE 2: So I discovered the source of this problem.
    The problem is caused by the windows 8 feature "Hybrid Shutdown".
    Once you turn it off every startup program starts normally, whether you shut down the PC, or restart it.
    So to anyone experiencing the same problem, do this:

    Go to Control panel->Power options and on the left side choices, click "Change what the power buttons do".
    On the new window, scroll down to "Shutdown settings" and you'll see an option "Turn on fast startup (recommended)".
    Uncheck this option and save changes. Now you can rest assured the problem is gone from the next time you start windows,
    everything starts as it should.
    Thanks, I had the exact same problem in Windows 8.1 and your suggestion solved it :-)
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  5. #15


    Posts : 5
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielizalo View Post
    In my Win 8.1 Basic I don't have this options.
    I made this change in this way:

    1. Control Panel > User Accounts > Change User Account Control Settings > Never Notify
    2. Run > RegEdit:
      Set the key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ Policies \ System \ EnableLUA to 0.
      About this option read about it here: windows 8 - How do I make every program run as an admin? - Super User

    Thanks,
    Thanks, Sorted this for me as well - I don't know why two programs suddenly stopped loading, but it's sorted.

    Regarding the Local Policy approach, I seem to remember reading that the option to change these settings isn't available in basic Win 8.1 (need Pro)


    Edit: Mmmh! Every time I have this set, I get a volsnap on system reboot and lose my System Restore point!
    Last edited by tombar; 10 May 2015 at 12:33. Reason: New result
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