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router with gateway

  1. #1


    MD
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    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    router with gateway


    I want to use an old router with my Comcast gateway now that I know the techs can see my password and that I need more speed. The Galaxy phone actually showed me that I was sluggish, only within my home's secure network, as it is snappy when using data or the Xfinity unsecured WI-FI.
    Apparently the gateway's router is slowing me down besides displaying the password to Comcast techs in the network dept.
    I tried 5 instead if 2.4 but I could not each the rest of the house.

    Anyway my question is, if I detail my hookup would someone be willing to help me with the cables so I could bridge and just use my old router not the gateway's.
    The Belkin N300 has a firmware update at the Belkin site.

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  2. #2


    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    All routers are gateway's. Comcast uses eMTA's for their customers. Also the techs have no way of knowing your password you set up. They do have a master password that is embedded in the software as a back door, in case they have to undo something a user changed.

    If you want to use the Belkin (not really a good choice for Wifi). You will still need a Cable Modem like the Motorola/Arris 6412. As for having service across the house, you will need extra Access Points for that, or Range extenders which are a little more expensive, that you just plug into an outlet, with the master plugged into the wall outlet, to use the house wiring instead of Ethernet.
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  3. #3


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    assistance with cables


    I used to have just a modem before digital phone. Now I have gateway which I realize has a modem and router in it. When I was talking with the tech yesterday he quoted my internal passphrase which was not good. I do have a password to enter the gateway and a passphrase for the router.
    Anyway I just wanted some help with the setup as I have the firmware update on my desktop now. I have the gateway but do not know how to hook the router up with the gateway pc etc.
    If anyone whishes to help I'd appreciate it.
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  4. #4


    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    You have no control over updating the firmware on the eMTA. Only your ISP can do that. If you want to use the Belkin as an A/P. There is info at ezlan.net.
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  5. #5


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    I wanted to update the firmware on my Belkin and have the link.
    I think the gateway has a modem and a router and a feature that enables digital phone.
    Thanks for the referral -I need to figure out how to wire this setup. I think the Ethernet cable I have from the gateway to the pc now goes to my router and another Ethernet cable goes from the router top port to the gateway. Then after bridging is set I can configure my old router.
    But before anything, I need to see if all this work with 8.1.
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  6. #6


    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    A Gateway can be an all-in-one device, or it can just be the router/switch. As for the Belkin. The support side of Belkin may not even have an updated version, if you just purchased it.

    It does not matter what the OS is. Gateways/Routers are like traffic cops. They just tell the packets where to go, when they come through.
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  7. #7


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    OK , thank you.
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  8. #8


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    continue bridging


    I am going to visit a friend who had Comcast like I do. I would like to use a secure network and he is ok with that but we need some help.
    When I enter the Comcast gateway I see the option to bridge or disable .
    if I disable bridging, can I just use my Ethernet cables from their gateway to my router and configure my router, OR do I have to do any configuring within the gateway.

    I assume when I am done that I just have to reverse bridging.
    Will other Comcast features in the house be affected such as phone and TV?
    I guess I would have to reset the password on his IPAD as he does not have a pc. They have the triple play.

    If this is too much mess for him, would it be a safer idea to make his Gateway more secure than WEP by setting it up like mine with WPA 2 etc. and a good passphrase.
    I would then need to reset the passwords on his IPAD but the TV and phone should be ok.

    Obviously I am not very astute with this networking but need a secure connection when I am away.
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