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Copy files over temporary LAN between Intra-HomeGroup PCs

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by milindsmart View Post
    I would have to disagree about HomeGroups, because that's the only reason currently sharing actually works reasonably reliably. Otherwise it was a pain to debug why it was not connecting, and when it did, it never seemed to remember the login credentials.... But maybe that was vista..

    Nevertheless, neither home group nor "normal" sharing is possible when I'm on a direct lan connection between the 2 computers because each only gets a link local IP address. So it's unidentified, so it's public, and hence no network discovery.... Finding out which IP address was assigned and then doing it manually is far too much work to be replicated each time.... I want some way for windows to remember the network, to start with.
    What you need to do is set up a good old Peer to Peer network, "Work Group"with a User set up on both computer that are the same , then set your shares to Authorized Users only. Just Goggle Peer to Peer LAN you'll get tons of information. Home group sucks I never could get it to work. Then I have had a Peer to Peer network since Window 2000 so maybe I just not wanting too. I like having full control over my computers.

    Set up your router to assign specific IP address's for each computer on the network.

    Even with a gigabyte LAN large file transfers over wireless are going to be slow, but you could use some file syncing program so you wouldn't have to sit there and manual transfer files.

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  2. #12


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    But how do I get the IP addresses set? There is no router as far as the Ethernet cable goes.... It's a direct connection. How do I get it to take a sane IP address automatically?

    And I certainly don't have Gigabyte LAN, more like 150Mbps. I'm talking about 1000BASE-T direct cable (Both my NICs have Auto MDI/MDI-X, so no crossover cable required).
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by milindsmart View Post
    But how do I get the IP addresses set? There is no router as far as the Ethernet cable goes.... It's a direct connection. How do I get it to take a sane IP address automatically?

    And I certainly don't have Gigabyte LAN, more like 150Mbps. I'm talking about 1000BASE-T direct cable (Both my NICs have Auto MDI/MDI-X, so no crossover cable required).
    I'm Sorry I have no idea how to network PC to PC directly with out a router. Back in the old days I used a program call Laplink or something like that I think there are a few program out there that will do this for you.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by milindsmart View Post
    But how do I get the IP addresses set? There is no router as far as the Ethernet cable goes.... It's a direct connection. How do I get it to take a sane IP address automatically?

    And I certainly don't have Gigabyte LAN, more like 150Mbps. I'm talking about 1000BASE-T direct cable (Both my NICs have Auto MDI/MDI-X, so no crossover cable required).
    This should help: Chip - India's Most Trusted Guide To Gadgets And Technology > Networking At Home > Articles

    Bottom part of article talks about setting the IPs.
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  5. #15


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    Depending on if you have a Wireless-G or Wireless-N adapter. It is going to transfer at the same rate pretty much as a wired connection. Just keep the computers connected, and either connect them through Ethernet, or just use Wifi. Stop trying to make more difficult, out of something that has been done for decades.

    You really will never notice, unless you are one of these clock watcher types, that sit in front of the computer and watch it move data. I can send around 5gb of data in less than 5 minutes from my laptop to my NAS, across my wireless-N 300mb/s network, with the NAS hooked up to my gateway through a 1000mb/s Ethernet connection with no issues.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post

    This should help: Chip - India's Most Trusted Guide To Gadgets And Technology > Networking At Home > Articles

    Bottom part of article talks about setting the IPs.
    That is manual setting up of IPs for a connection that is going to be permanent. Mine would be temporary.

    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Depending on if you have a Wireless-G or Wireless-N adapter. It is going to transfer at the same rate pretty much as a wired connection. Just keep the computers connected, and either connect them through Ethernet, or just use Wifi. Stop trying to make more difficult, out of something that has been done for decades.

    You really will never notice, unless you are one of these clock watcher types, that sit in front of the computer and watch it move data. I can send around 5gb of data in less than 5 minutes from my laptop to my NAS, across my wireless-N 300mb/s network, with the NAS hooked up to my gateway through a 1000mb/s Ethernet connection with no issues.
    It should not be very different, but in practice I get 50 MBps on GigE, while I get only 5 MBps on WiFi. Due to location, BOTH the devices will have to be quite far from the WiFi router... I have tried it and makes for a long slow and irritating file transfer.

    Besides all this, I sometimes am a "clock watcher", or more accurately a progress bar watcher, and I find underutilized communication pathways an irritant. Let's please not go there, debating "Use the convenient option, it's fast enough, unless you're needlessly obsessive".
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  7. #17


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    In a lab environment yes. In the real world, no. Suggest not rewriting the book, and just set up the network how you want it. Then do everything that way. Of course you could upgrade to Wireless-ac with the expense for doing so. And then have Gb speeds across wifi.

    Remember that individual hardware is where you run into the slowdowns (hard drives, CPU, wifi chipset, router, NAS hardware).
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  8. #18


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    expensive wireless-ac instead of cheap gigE ethernet cable? no thanks.

    In this case my slowdown is definitely due to the network.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by milindsmart View Post
    expensive wireless-ac instead of cheap gigE ethernet cable? no thanks.

    In this case my slowdown is definitely due to the network.
    Did I state that you had to go right out and get Wireless-ac equipment? No. As for Cheap Ethernet cables. That will cause more problems than it is worth. Using Wireless-n Dual Channel/Dual-Band, will work just fine if you do not want to connect say a laptop or cannot connect a desktop to the switch.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Broe23, please just take it from me, I want an optimal solution for this, not just settle for what is easily doable. Being long, troublesome, inconvenient in the short term is fine by me, if I can get to a qualitatively better solution. After all, I'm the kind of guy who does Boot Windows 7/8 from GPT on BIOS system : No hybrid MBRs or DUET! - Windows 7 Help Forums because I want to avail the benefits of a new partitioning scheme without having new firmware, despite Microsoft saying that it's not supported.

    I don't have a dual-band router, else maybe I'd have taken your advice. I only have Wifi-N 300Mbps. Trust me, that is just not enough.
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