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Anonymous Access to a Share on 8.1

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    Windows 8.1 update 1

    Anonymous Access to a Share on 8.1


    The setup:
    Two Windows 8.1 pro boxes. Each one has a different MS account associated with it. Box A has a shared folder. Premissions set with "everyone" rw. Box B is trying to access the share. When Box B opens Box A in the network it prompts for credentials. (box that pops up is shown below) Box A will accept any username entered, but it will always pop up the box asking for credentials. Why is this happening? I noticed that it is using the computer name for the domain, is that normal? Why would it even need to show the box if the everyone group is added to the share? I've tried everything I could think of, nothing works. It's not just Windows 8.1 that cannot access the share, even a Windows 7 box gets the same popup. My network setting have password protected sharing disabled, and use user account, not homegroup is selected. Network setting are identical on box A and B.

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    Windows 8.1 update 1


    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    That's not the issue as all computers in my workgroup have password protected sharing off. Also all networks are set to private.
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    The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
    tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabascojoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
    tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
    The same way that we did it with Windows 7. Windows 8 uses the live account as the username. The password is your network login password.

    You set folders to "Everyone". It opens the OS up to problems. One is that you allow viruses to take hold and start infecting the machine, along with others on the LAN. There is a reason why Microsoft layered in certain safe guards into Windows 8. It was not to protect the OS from the user. It was to protect the user from their own bad habits.
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    Windows 8.1 update 1


    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tabascojoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
    tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
    The same way that we did it with Windows 7. Windows 8 uses the live account as the username. The password is your network login password.

    You set folders to "Everyone". It opens the OS up to problems. One is that you allow viruses to take hold and start infecting the machine, along with others on the LAN. There is a reason why Microsoft layered in certain safe guards into Windows 8. It was not to protect the OS from the user. It was to protect the user from their own bad habits.
    I hate replies like this. I know what I am doing and I have a reason to add the everyone group. Also 7 did not use "live" accounts. It used local accounts or domain account if joined to a domain. Do you have an answer to the problem of why local account connect while MS account don't? If not please don't preach about viruses and "safe guards" and other nonsense.
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    Windows 8.1 update 1


    I found this article that has a solution to my issue...
    How to get read/write access to WHS v1 shares from Windows 8 using a Microsoft Account? - Super User

    It's crazy I have to manually add an entry. MS should create a local account for failover when it create an MS account
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabascojoe View Post
    I found this article that has a solution to my issue...
    How to get read/write access to WHS v1 shares from Windows 8 using a Microsoft Account? - Super User

    It's crazy I have to manually add an entry. MS should create a local account for failover when it create an MS account
    Great find.
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    Windows 8.1 update 1


    I ended up using Homegroup on my network. I though I never use Homegroup, but with MS accounts it about the only way to have a password less (well...if you don't count the Homegroup password) share. Homegroup is alright, but it feels like amateur hour. Next Windows version I'm going to skip the MS account, beside the app store there is not much benefit to it.
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