Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums

networking Mac

  1. #1


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    networking Mac


    Hello Usually when I visit a friend or family we use the admin prompt to ipconfig and note the gateway address. Then we use that in the address bar to get to the router. Once in, either by password and admin or the person's password I look at the passphrase or key so that I can enter that on my laptop when I click on their SSID and I have connection.

    I was at my son's and I think he said he made the mac address specific to the device so I could not perform what I had outlined.
    Is this a good security measure and in sort of layman's terms how do you do this to provide extra security if that is the case? Does this restrict you in any way?
    Thank you
    Peter

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #2


    It's called MAC (media access control) filtering. Basically, you tell your router which MAC addresses are allowed to communicate with it. Each network card has it's own unique MAC address.

    It does add a layer of security and was something that I used to do, but it is possible to "spoof" a mac address, so if you could sniff the traffic and determine an allowed MAC address, you could spoof to this allowed address and thus gain access.

    Since turning off my MAC address filtering, I haven't noticed any increased amount of attempts to hack into my wireless or gain access to any of my systems.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Posts : 328
    Windows 8.1 (x64)


    Yeah MAC is not a very good security layer. Better than the option to not broadcast the SSID (security by obscurity) which actually tends to attract any knowledgable malicious neighbor, but not by much.
    Debunking Myths: Is Hiding Your Wireless SSID Really More Secure?
    Non-Broadcast Wireless SSIDs Why hidden wireless networks are a bad idea - Microsoft Enterprise Networking Team - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

    The best security is to choose the highest security protocol (WPA2 for regular users) and choose a long authentification key (max is 64 characters) different from the default one, preferably something hard to guess (use numbers, alternate lower/upper case, etc..). Renaming your SSID (what your router's name shows up as in the Wifi neighborood) is also good.
    Here is a link to a generator of random passwords, if you don't want the hassle of creating one yourself : https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
    Check the Application Notes in the link, it talks specifically about WEP/WPA security and why strong keys are preferable.

    It's also advised to turn off Wi-Fi Protected Setup, if this feature is present on your router, since it has a major security flaw.
    Wi-Fi Protected Setup Flaws Make Wireless Network Brute-force Attacks Feasible | PCWorld
    The WPS (WiFi Protected Setup) flaw explained - Neowin

    And here is more info about the security protocols :
    How Safe is WPA2-Secured WiFi? | PCWorld
    HTG Explains: The Difference Between WEP, WPA, and WPA2 Wireless Encryption (and Why It Matters)
    Last edited by oneeyed; 14 Jul 2014 at 17:05.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    United States
    Posts : 3,093
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Good thing about dual-band is you have to enable WPA2 to make it work and get the best throughput.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Thank you all for your very helpful information. I will employ it and send it along to my son.
    Peter
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    router


    Hello
    I am sharing a portion of my son's email to me as I do not quite understand all of it and want to set up my routers as best I can;

    [Change the default administrator account IP address. change the default password.
    enable a security protocol (for encryption) and password to access the router.
    and, yeah, a mac table.]

    What does he mean by;

    1-Change the default administrator account IP address

    2-enable a security protocol for encryption

    3-a mac table -I assume this is what you kindly explained before and seems unnecessary.

    Thank you
    Peter
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    United States
    Posts : 3,093
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Peter, how mine is setup. You only need to change the router IP address if it is causing some kind of conflict with other hardware. Second picture is how my encryption is setup. Third photo, I use no MAC filtering.

    Click image for larger version

    Click image for larger version

    Click image for larger version
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #8


    United States
    Posts : 3,093
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Whoops! And here is security settings:

    Click image for larger version
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #9


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    security


    It seems as though, MAC filtering which did not allow me to access his router is the only security measure he used that I don't and you discontinued.
    I have to have the cooperation of the user to access the router anyway so I don't need it as others need my cooperation also - unless they have hacked into my pc.

    I have a password to enter the router, a strong key with WPA 2 etc. and basically the same settings you do.

    I appreciate all the help you have been.
    Peter
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

networking Mac
Related Threads
Networking Xp to Windows 7/8 in Network & Sharing
I have several computers. One on XP; 2 on 8 and one on 7. I can connect, via the network the 8 and 7's together. I can connect from the XP to all. BUT i cannot connect from the 7/8's to the XP. 37311 This is what i get every time. I've reset the passwords on the XP, and it still hates it...
Networking and BitLocker in System Security
Hi everyone, first post here. Say you have a Windows 8 PRO system in an office environment being used as a Quickbooks server and sharing a few other files with other users on a network. This Windows 8 PRO PC is using BitLocker drive encryption via TPM where you must enter a pin number on boot...
Windows 8/8.1 Networking in Network & Sharing
Pardon my ignorance on some of the nuances of networking, it is all pretty new to me (I am getting long in the tooth). I wonder if anyone who is a bit better versed in networking can help me out - I have messed around with a number of settings in a desperate attempt to make my internet pages load...
networking in Network & Sharing
Hello I am with a guest who let me use the Ethernet cable from her modem to my router then to my laptop with the second Ethernet cable. Is there someway, for a moderately skilled user, that I can enter her network and be able to move away from the Ethernet cable I am tied to? I did try to run...
Networking with Win 8 and Win XP in Network & Sharing
Hi guys. I have two computers one running Win 8 and the other with XP and want to network both. I have used an old router for this task. I have set up the two IP addresses and used the ping command. Ping responded very well on both computers. That means both computers are working OK and in...
Solved Networking Question in Network & Sharing
I am having a problem networking two machines in one direction. I have a bunch of machines (Macs and PCs with Win7, Win8, Lion, and Mt. Lion). My goal is to do the networking without using HomeGroup. Wanting to proceed this way is a prelude to doing some other things--which I won't go into now. So,...
Solved Restricted networking? in Network & Sharing
I can browse but many other functions seem not to be working. I cannot activate or update windows, all security certificates read as invalid, can't upload attachments to either here or rapidshare, "windows smartscreen can't be reached right now" for everything, the add-on manager for firefox...
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook