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Dafult boot for Home Network ""this is a home computer..."

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    Dafult boot for Home Network ""this is a home computer..."


    Hi

    Hopefully a simple one but unable to figure out a default setting.

    Simply for the home desktop and want to share with other kit on the home network.

    When I boot up it appears I have to always tweak the settings :

    1) Control Panel > System > Change settings > Network ID and select under "Select the option that best describes your network" so I opt for I tick "this is a home computer; it's not part of a business network."

    2 )The reboot.

    All works fine and all devices can be seen and read/write in accordance with the appropriate share settings.

    Now the issue is when I next reboot the

    Control Panel > System > Change settings > Network ID and select under "Select the option that best describes your network" will default to "This computer is part of a business network; I use it to connect to other computers at work".

    So I have to got through steps 1 and 2 again.

    How to I get Windows 8.1Pro x64 to default to the "this is a home computer; it's not part of a business network." on each boot without having to manual configure.

    Thanks for your time as usual.

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    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    One it is because you are switching back and forth between two different networks. Second Windows Firewall is borked. You may have to open a Command Window and run sfc /scannow . To see if that fixes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    One it is because you are switching back and forth between two different networks. Second Windows Firewall is borked. You may have to open a Command Window and run sfc /scannow . To see if that fixes it.

    1) No network is the same, it's home pc on one hub/one network same workgroup etc.
    2) ran sfc /scannow "Window resource protection did not find any intergrity violations.

    Surely there's a brute force method to set to option 2 withing the Network ID. As its a home desktop and not moved theres no need for other network checks.
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    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    Again it is doing that due to the Firewall. Has nothing to do with what kind of network. Are you using the built in Windows firewall, or some third party Internet security product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Again it is doing that due to the Firewall. Has nothing to do with what kind of network. Are you using the built in Windows firewall, or some third party Internet security product?
    Windows Firewall overidden by EsetNod Smart Security 7.0

    !These settings are being managed by vendor application ESET Smart Security.

    Private Networks : Connected.
    Guest or public networks : Not connected.

    Have checked the ESET firewall settings and IP set to home zone in trusted header.
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  6. #6

    a thought


    as your using Pro 8.1, the system would assume you are a business, and these would be the default settings.
    I think your going to have to edit group policy.
    Or set up something in task scheduler.

    Roy
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    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by mfx View Post
    1) Control Panel > System > Change settings > Network ID and select under "Select the option that best describes your network" so I opt for I tick "this is a home computer; it's not part of a business network."
    This is a completely, totally absolutely unnecessary setting for home networks and you should never click / change that. All my home computers show the same if Network ID button is clicked, as do the computers of other users..

    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    One it is because you are switching back and forth between two different networks. Second Windows Firewall is borked. You may have to open a Command Window and run sfc /scannow . To see if that fixes it.

    Quote Originally Posted by broe23 View Post
    Again it is doing that due to the Firewall. Has nothing to do with what kind of network. Are you using the built in Windows firewall, or some third party Internet security product?
    NO!

    This is not a Firewall issue, not an issue at all, just a misunderstanding from OP's side. It most certainly has nothing to do with Windows Firewall. Leave Firewall as it is, you do not need to change any Firewall settings to join your home workgroup.

    You set the Workgroup name by clicking the Change button, you do never need to touch the Network ID button as it is simply a wizard which always defaults to business network when launched.

    Click image for larger version
    Kari
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    This is puzzling.

    I have not touched any firewall settings.
    The workgroup name has always remained the same : workgroup
    The pc computer name has never changed.

    The host devices have not change workgroup or name settings, all pretty much default.

    I have no issues setting up the network, its just that the system defaults to business on initial boot.

    The only option at the moment is to remember to switch it to personal every time I shut down, even though it was set from the previous reboot.

    The system does not show any of the shared devices unless personal is chosen, business it's all blind except for the host pc (the desktop) on the network.
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    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by mfx View Post
    This is puzzling.

    I have not touched any firewall settings.
    The workgroup name has always remained the same : workgroup
    The pc computer name has never changed.

    The host devices have not change workgroup or name settings, all pretty much default.

    I have no issues setting up the network, its just that the system defaults to business on initial boot.

    The only option at the moment is to remember to switch it to personal every time I shut down, even though it was set from the previous reboot.

    The system does not show any of the shared devices unless personal is chosen, business it's all blind except for the host pc (the desktop) on the network.
    I assume you are still referring to this:

    Click image for larger version

    I repeat what I said in my previous post: that is not a setting, that is nothing your computer is defaulting to. It is just a wizard which you have no reason to use or check. You simply have no reason to click the Network ID button, nor do you ever have to run the wizard it launches. If you want to change either the PC or Workgroup name, simply press the Change button as shown in my previous post.

    If all the networked computers are on the same Workgroup and sharing is set properly, all shared devices will be shown.

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    (Click to enlarge.)

    Kari
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  10. #10


    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    That was my thought Kari. Someone is over thinking this. Now the question is. Are they using a VPN to connect to the Business network.
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