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How did my Dell know my LAN Password?

  1. #11


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJustinn View Post
    I think you ticked the box called "Connect automatically"
    Connect automatically requires password to be entered before it works, too.

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  2. #12


    N. Calif
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    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    Quote Originally Posted by JJustinn View Post
    I think you ticked the box called "Connect automatically"
    That is only good for re-connecting to a network that you have previously entered the pw for so that the pw is already known.
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  3. #13


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Do you log in with a Microsoft Live ID? If yes have a look at your OneDrive sync settings. Under Passwords it can save sign in info for Apps, Web sites, Networks, Home group etc. All you would have had to do was log in once to that network on a PC that you logged into with a Live ID. After that, that info is synced to any other PC you use that same Live ID on.
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  4. #14


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Do you log in with a Microsoft Live ID? If yes have a look at your OneDrive sync settings. Under Passwords it can save sign in info for Apps, Web sites, Networks, Home group etc. All you would have had to do was log in once to that network on a PC that you logged into with a Live ID. After that, that info is synced to any other PC you use that same Live ID on.
    No, that is not correct.

    Microsoft Live ID does not save network (router) credentials, they are saved locally on each device. Never. The same with for instance Homegroup; joining a Windows 8 / 8.1 device to homegroup when signed in with a Microsoft Account or Live ID does not mean another device where you sign in with the same ID is automatically joined to Homegroup. Homegroup password is not stored in your Microsoft Account / Live ID. Absolutely, totally 100% sure.
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  5. #15


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    I'm just going by what it says here? Under passwords it mentions Networks and Home Group?
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  6. #16


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    OK, I stand corrected. However, I just checked my settings, everything allowed to sync on all Windows 8.1 devices (using the same Microsoft Account on each device), yet every time I have set up a new device I need to to manually enter the WPA2 passphrase and HomeGroup password.

    I need to test this on a virgin Windows 8.1 Update 1 laptop now. "Stay Tuned..."
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  7. #17


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    I've had to enter my network password during an install, but WIFI was my only network connection so my laptop had not connected and synced yet. My desktop PC doesn't have a wireless card in it so I haven't tested if the WIFI password synced to it or not.

    EDIT: I don't use Home Group and always leave the one setup by default.
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  8. #18


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I've had to enter my network password during an install, but WIFI was my only network connection so my laptop had not connected and synced yet. My desktop PC doesn't have a wireless card in it so I haven't tested if the WIFI password synced to it or not.

    EDIT: I don't use Home Group and always leave the one setup by default.
    Using my own words from an earlier post, I was absolutely totally 100% wrong. My sincere apologies.

    That is one of the sync features I have never thought of much but apparently it works exactly as you told. I set up a Windows 8.1 laptop just now, a "virgin" rig which I recently inherited from my estranged wife who had bought it but never had time to set it up. First OOBE boot, wired connection. Entered desktop using my main Microsoft Account which is told to sync everything.

    It joined HomeGroup automatically. Selecting my home WiFi network it did not ask the WPA2 passphrase but instead connected automatically although this laptop was only taken out of the retail box just now, never been used before by me, never been connected to my home network.

    Once again, to great delight of some other members both here and especially at the Seven Forums: I was totally wrong.

    Kari
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  9. #19


    N. Calif
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    That's good to know Kari (not good to know you were wrong , good to know network pw is synced). I don't login using my MS account on my Win 8.x machines (use local account) so never experienced that.
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  10. #20


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    A good example of that with Windows you should never assume anything, as I did.

    I set up Windows 8 normally with a local administrative account, only thereafter I add my Microsoft Accounts. I have always assumed that the machine is already in HomeGroup and knows the router WPA2 key is due the fact that I have manually entered those in initial setup when first booted to said local account's desktop, before creating additional users with MS accounts.
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