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2 routers - wrong one is "master"

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    2 routers - wrong one is "master"


    I have two wireless routers in order to reach all parts of my home/office. Call them R1 and R2. R1 is the one integrated with my modem, and the one that reaches most of my home. R2 is quite a ways away, and reaches remote parts of my home. In my normal operations, my PC connects to R1 because its signal is stronger.

    If I am logged in to R1, I do get a stronger signal, but can't "see" the other network computers in File Explorer. If I log in to R2, all PCs on the network are visible, and file sharing, network printing, backups, etc. work as expected. Apparently, R2 is the "master" in my network. (R1, however, is the DHCP server...)

    How can I change that so R1 becomes the "master"?

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    You need to turn off DHCP on the secondary router. Also, the first router or switch needs to plug into the LAN port on the secondary router, don't use the WAN or Internet port on the secondary router.

    The way you have it now there are most likely two different subnets which is why you can't see the other machines.
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    You really need Access Points to cover the rest of the home, not another router. Netgear, TP-Link, D-Link make Power plug in units, that use the Electrical wiring for communicating between the units to the main router. There are also POE (Power Over Ethernet) units. That look like Smoke detectors, that go up on your ceiling or wall. You can get those for the same price as a router these days.
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    Thanks, Chev, for the suggestions. My setup already is the way you suggested...

    Broe, I do have a couple of extra Ethernet over power lines devices here - I'll see if they will help.

    I appreciate all ideas and the time you give in posting answers!

    I expect that when I remove the second router, the primary one will pick up the ball and run with it. Thanks again.
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    You might want to check that the modem isn't one of those so called modem/router combo units.

    If it is then you would need to use the bridge setting on the modem in order to bypass it's own DHCP router.

    Other than that it's impossible for this issue to occur if DHCP is turned off on the secondary router and the Ethernet cables between the routers are using the LAN port, LAN port to LAN port.
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    Router with DHCP turned off and used as a Wireless Access point will work for a temp fix. Depending on the model of the router. You may be able to load DD-WRT on it, and turn it into a true Access Point. The Engenius smoke style units come with a POE Injector for around $88.

    I have a Engenius ECB-350 with a POE Injector plugged in downstairs on my UPS backup. It will cover the whole house and up to a 1/2 mile away if I crank it up to 29dBm for power. Mainly use it for main WiFi. I have a Trendnet TEW-638APB for Wireless-B/G devices. That one will cover my garage that is around 50' away from the house with no issues.

    Post the model numbers and manufacturer info on the hardware. I keep a set of wired EOP units for when I need to work out in my garage on the camera out there. I can get at least 138mbps between the house & garage with them.
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    R1 is a Qwest Actiontec Q1000 modem/router combo device. R2 is a D-Link DIR-655.

    I do have a variety of other routers. Maybe if I removed the D-Link and put another one in there, the network would reconfigure itself to meet my desires...? Worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyp View Post
    R1 is a Qwest Actiontec Q1000 modem/router combo device. R2 is a D-Link DIR-655.

    I do have a variety of other routers. Maybe if I removed the D-Link and put another one in there, the network would reconfigure itself to meet my desires...? Worth a try.
    No it would not. The only way that the network would reconfigure itself is with human intervention.

    With having the Gateway from your provider and placing a Router behind it. You run into a lot of issues. If you just want to use the router as an Access Point. Then load said router with DD-WRT and turn it into a true Access Point. You would need a wired connection between the Gateway and the "Access Point". So that any devices connected to the A/P can have Network & Internet access.
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    Thanks, broe. I appreciate your help. But, if I replace the D-Link (R2) with an Access Point, will it still then require human intervention to reconfigure? In other words, what is going to trigger that? Your first paragraph makes it sound like I'm in a hole.
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    Yes you have to configure an access point. But it is not a router, which the Gateway is. I really have no problem with you wanting to re-use an old router as an Access Point. You really need to look at DD-WRT to see if it will work with that D-Link and install the firmware.

    You will not only have an Access Point. But you would also get a 5-port switch in the process.
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