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Printing problem after Win 8 PC added to network

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    Printing problem after Win 8 PC added to network


    I have recently taken an XP PC off my network and have replaced it with a Win 8 PC. I had two printers attached to the XP and now these are attached to the Win 8.

    Printing is fine from within the Win 8, but the networked printers don't show on the Win 7s (three of them).

    The PCs are in a workgroup, for although all PCs normally on the network are Win 7 and 8, occasionally an XP netbook will be attached. But I suppose I could try a homegroup.

    What used to occur was that a printer attached to the XP appeared on the other PCs as 'Canon iP4900 series on X', where X was the name of the remote PC. It was necessary to install the drivers on all the PCs.

    Since the change, the two printers are named on the host Win 8 and are marked as shared but are not mentioned on the Win 7s as being on X, which prevents printing. A third printer is attached to the Win 7 at the other end of the house and this appears as being on Y on the other Win 7s and on the Win 8.

    I would be grateful for advice as to how I can make the two printers on the Win 8 available to the Win 7s. I must admit that I didn't expect this situation. Network printing has been a breeze previously.

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    Ok it may be just me but the way you explained is confusing lol. Anyways are you trying to connect the Host pc Win8 to the printer via usb or network then sharing it to the others through the Host (win8) pc? Rather than installing the printer and connecting them separately?
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    Can't see how it is confusing. For years the way I have networked printers is to install the driver for each printer on each PC. Then on a PC where the printers are not physically connected two icons appear for each printer, one for the 'dummy' printer and the other showing the printer located on the PC to which it is connected. Selecting that latter icon results in the job being printed.

    (When the Win 8 was on the network and had no printers attached to it, it played the game by the rules and would print via printers attached to other network PCs, but now it has the printers attached to it, it seems to want to keep the printers to itself and not play the sharing game.)

    As it is, a third printer that is physically connected to a Win 7 PC shows on the PCs to which it isn't physically connected as 'HP LaserJet 4/4M PS on X', where X is the nickname of the Win 7 PC to which the printer is actually connected. This is not happening for the printers physically attached to the Win 8. Only the dummy printers show on the Win 7 PCs. In fact, with Win 8 (8.1.1) I am staggered to find that the icons of the printers physically connected to the Win 8 don't show on the Win 8 unless the printers are turned on. Don't know what Microsoft was thinking when it made this change. Surely a user should be able to see all printer icons in Devices and Printers and not just those for printers that are turned on at the time.

    I am wondering if searching by IP address might work. Apparently gone is the way that network printing worked in XP, Vista and Win 7.
    Last edited by stony41; 08 May 2014 at 17:52.
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    If I understand this correctly you have a Windows 8 pc and on this Windows 8 pc you connected a printer via USB port. When the printer installed onto windows 8, it asked you to share the printer, and you did, right? If so, what is the shared name of the printer? You will need to know the shared name of the printer and the Windows 8 computer name.

    Now, from a windows 7 computer do the following:

    Click Start, run, and then put in the following: \\windows8computername\printersharedname


    If windows 7 says it can't find the printer or if it prompts for a login (which will probably happen) you will need to provide a valid login\password for the windows 8 computer.

    A good way to find out what is shared on the windows 8 computer is to do the following:

    Click Start, click run and then type the following: \\windows8computername and then press ok. This will tell you if anything is shared. If you see the printer, just double click the printer and it will install it on your Windows 7 computer.

    If you don't see the printer then it isn't shared or you don't have it shared properly.

    Now if the printers are connected to the network via a switch and the printer has its on ip address, then I would connect directly to the printer and not go through the sharing of the printer off of a computer. More work for the network and for the computers that are involved.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by play2mefish View Post
    Click Start, click run and then type the following: \\windows8computername and then press ok. This will tell you if anything is shared. If you see the printer, just double click the printer and it will install it on your Windows 7 computer.
    Many thanks for this solution. I had tried putting in both the computername and the printername in Run, but that didn't get me anywhere. But I may not have waited long enough for something to happen! All Win 7s can now connect to the printers on the Win 8. My memory is that when the printers were connected to the XP the shared printers just popped up on the other PCs ... but maybe they didn't!

    This leaves me with just one more printer to tame: an old but heavy-duty mono Kyocera FS-6900 laser that worked fine on the XP. This reportedly can work in Win7 (but not Win 8) with a 'universal' driver from Kyocera. But so far no go. The printer uses a parallel connection and so must have a parallel-USB adapter. Perhaps the adapter isn't working (these adapters are tricky and perhaps another brand might work). A friend and I are about to try a print server. But it won't be the end of the world if I have to retire the beast.
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    You can always go this route with the parallel printer:

    Amazon.com: TP-LINK TL-PS110P Single parallel port fast ethernet Print Server, E-mail Alert, Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) SMB: Electronics

    This way, you can print directly to the printer and not involve any other computers in the process.
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    You could try this driver from the manufacturer, perhaps, it says for Windows 8/8.1 (32bit/64bit) : FS-6900 Driver Download Centre | KYOCERA Document Solutions Serviceworld - downloads, drivers, documentations, utilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by whest View Post
    You could try this driver from the manufacturer, perhaps, it says for Windows 8/8.1 (32bit/64bit) : FS-6900 Driver Download Centre | KYOCERA Document Solutions Serviceworld - downloads, drivers, documentations, utilities
    Thanks for info, but I already had this driver but somehow couldn't get either Win 7 or 8 to print to the printer despite the driver being installed and the printer said to be 'ready'. It again seemed necessary to actually ask the Win 7s to connect to the Kyocera on the Win 8 before the printer driver on the Win 7 would install correctly and work. Before Win 8 I have simply had to install the driver on non-host PCs to get things to work. In Win 8 it seems that the host PC needs to be recognised as boss and manage the links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by play2mefish View Post
    You can always go this route with the parallel printer:

    Amazon.com: TP-LINK TL-PS110P Single parallel port fast ethernet Print Server, E-mail Alert, Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) SMB: Electronics

    This way, you can print directly to the printer and not involve any other computers in the process.
    I have a print server on the way that a mate and I were going to try to use with the parallel Kyocera, but the problem is now resolved as I have reported in my previous post. The server will now have to go to another home.

    Many thanks to both of you for your advice.
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    You should try homegroup it should work well, and should fix the problem, as you say you no longer need XP, It doesn't take long to set up and test - make sure the host machine has printer sharing enabled via devices and printers in control panel - right click the printer - printer properties - sharing - and select what you want -then in network and Sharing click homegroup -create a homegroup - easy prompts - if you want to share other folders after you finish there just right click them and select share with homegroup.
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