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Member of Administrators Account Can'tAccessOthers'Folders

  1. #1


    Vancouver Island
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    Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit) with Media Center

    Member of Administrators Account Can'tAccessOthers'Folders


    I have an Asus desktop computer and an Asus notebook computer both running Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit) and a Dell notebook computer running Windows XP Pro (32-bit) with disk drives and user accounts configured the same way on all machines. My account is a member of the Administrators Group. On each PC I created data folders for each user account on a large hard disk (D). For each folder I set Modify permissions for the user account and Full permissions for the Administrators Group using the process shown in your "Option 3 - Advanced Security Properties".
    The file system correctly allows access to each data folder to the user account which has permission and blocks access to all other standard user accounts. The Windows 8.1 file system does not allow my account to access any of the folders belonging to other users on either Asus PC, whereas the Dell PC had and still has no problem allowing my account to access all shares on it.
    The only way I could get access to any shared folders on another Windows 8.1 PC was to make the following settings in "Control Panel | Network and Sharing Center | Advanced sharing settings":
    - Private automatic network discovery: On.
    - Private File & printer sharing: On.
    - Private HomeGroup connections: Use user accounts & passwords...
    - Guest network discovery: Off.
    - Guest file & printer sharing: On.
    - All networks public folder sharing: On.
    - All networks media streaming: All networks - allowed; All libraries or folders except "Documents" - shared.
    - All networks file sharing connections: Use 128-bit encryption...
    - Password protected sharing: Off.
    Is there any way to allow a member of the Administrators Group on the Windows 8.1 Pro computers to access all shared folders on the network as was allowed by Windows XP Pro?

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  2. #2


    Vancouver Island
    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit) with Media Center


    This query is getting lots of views but no-one has been brave enough to take a stab at helping me to resolve this conundrum. Does anyone in the Microsoft world know how to get Windows 8.1 network shares working properly, or even what the company now considers "properly" to be? In addition to the above problem, standard users are not able to access folders on another Win-8 machine which have "Modify" permission for that user. Members of the Administrators group cannot access other users' folders on the same or on another Win-8 machine, even when they are given "Full Control" permission.
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    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Gordon, and welcome to Eight Forums.

    You might see if setting what you want to share using "Share with" for Administrators may allow them access.

    File Sharing - "Share with" & "Stop Sharing" in Windows 8

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonRD View Post
    This query is getting lots of views but no-one has been brave enough to take a stab at helping me to resolve this conundrum. Does anyone in the Microsoft world know how to get Windows 8.1 network shares working properly, or even what the company now considers "properly" to be? In addition to the above problem, standard users are not able to access folders on another Win-8 machine which have "Modify" permission for that user. Members of the Administrators group cannot access other users' folders on the same or on another Win-8 machine, even when they are given "Full Control" permission.
    Maybe you can figure out the problem by reading through the following link which explains how NTFS permissions work. It's a rather complicated subject.
    Share Permissions and NTFS Permissions Folder Access Control & Folder Permissions - AD and Exchange Quantum Singularity

    You can also set up a Homegroup between the Windows 8 machines and there is a method to make those Library's accessible from other Windows machines like XP.
    How do I make Windows 7 HomeGroup content accessible to Vista and XP? - TechRepublic.

    I'm not completely sure why the Admin account would lose access to the standard users shares but there is a reason for this and I wouldn't expect Windows 8 to behave like XP in this case, the file system has been changed considerably since the XP days.

    If you don't mess with the NTFS permissions then Windows 8 has no access problems at all, in fact the entire Users folder is shared out by default.

    Turning on Network Discovery and File and Printer sharing is standard procedure in order to make shared folders available to other networked machines.
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  5. #5


    Quote Originally Posted by GordonRD View Post
    - All networks file sharing connections: Use 128-bit encryption...
    Well, at a guess, I would start there. I think you will find that XP has no idea what 128-bit encryption looks like so it sends what it can. Try the "...40- or 56-bit," option in All Networks.
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  6. #6


    Vancouver Island
    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit) with Media Center


    Brink, I've already followed the procedure outlined in your excellent tutorial (have been using the same procedure since Win-XP). I have created shared folders for each user on a data drive. For all of these shares I allowed Full Control permission for the Administrators group as well as for each individual administrator. I also allowed Change permission for each individual to his/her own data folders. The system blocks access from each Win-8 PC to that user's data folders on the other Win-8 PC, but not to the user's folders on the Win-XP machine. All 3 PCs have the same share/permission and user account setup.

    Chev65, I will respond to your comments after completing the reading that you suggested.

    CarvedDuck, the access between the Win-8 PCs is causing the problem; the access to the Win-XP shares from the Win-8 PCs is working fine. This is exactly the opposite of what you expected, I believe. Is this correct?

    Thanks for the feedback. It is very much appreciated, especially because this is looking more like a Win-8 bug with each passing day.
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