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Laptop with Win7 and Desktop with Win8.1 sharing problem

  1. #1


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1

    Laptop with Win7 and Desktop with Win8.1 sharing problem


    I have a problem with network shares. In a nutshell, I can access documents in folders on my Windows 8.1 PC from my Windows 7 laptop but not from the Win 8.1 PC to the Win7 laptop.

    I setup a share for the D drive on the Win7 laptop and I can access that from the Win8.1 PC, but when I try to access a folder in that D drive I am denied access.

    - Both PC and Laptop are in the same homegroup
    - I believe that all folders on both devices have sharing and security set properly, but perhaps I am overlooking something. I have been at this for about 6 hours now and can't solve the problem.

    I don't know where to go from here.

    Paul

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  2. #2


    Central IL
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    Linux Mint 17.2


    You may have to change permissions in the Security tab, for who can access that folder. Homegroups make things a little harder to troubleshoot. It is easier to troubleshoot if you were using conventional Network sharing.

    Do a "Leave Homegroup" on both machines, and then try sharing the folder by right clicking on it, then left click on the "Share With" and choose "Advance Sharing". See if that works.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks for the reply

    I left the Homegroup on both machines and edited the Advanced settings as below. Still can't access the shared drives or folders on either machine.

    Leave Homegroup on both computers - yes

    Private (current profile)

    network discovery - on
    file and printer sharing - on
    homegroup connections - use user accounts and passwords

    All Networks

    Public folder sharing - turned on sharing
    file sharing - used 128-bit encryption
    Password protected sharing - Turned off password protected sharing

    I want to share the D (data) drive on my Windows 8.1 machine. Here are the new settings.

    D:\
    Shared
    Network Path:
    \\Asusmain\d

    Advanced Sharing
    Share name: D
    Permissions
    Group or user names: Everyone (Full Control, Change, Read - all Allow)

    Paul
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  4. #4


    Quote Originally Posted by paulbasel View Post
    Thanks for the reply

    I left the Homegroup on both machines and edited the Advanced settings as below. Still can't access the shared drives or folders on either machine.

    Leave Homegroup on both computers - yes

    Private (current profile)

    network discovery - on
    file and printer sharing - on
    homegroup connections - use user accounts and passwords

    All Networks

    Public folder sharing - turned on sharing
    file sharing - used 128-bit encryption
    Password protected sharing - Turned off password protected sharing

    I want to share the D (data) drive on my Windows 8.1 machine. Here are the new settings.

    D:\
    Shared
    Network Path:
    \\Asusmain\d

    Advanced Sharing
    Share name: D
    Permissions
    Group or user names: Everyone (Full Control, Change, Read - all Allow)

    Paul
    If the problem is only accessing this one drive on the Windows 7 machine then the following link should help.

    HDD sharing - Windows 7 Help Forums
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    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    Firewall would be the next thing to check, along with messed up dns & IP info on both computers. Are you using the built in Windows firewall, or a third party Internet Security software suite? What is the manufacturer & model of the router you are using?
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  6. #6


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1


    chev65 - I tried the method in that link you sent me HDD sharing - Windows 7 Help Forums. Didn't make any difference.

    broe23 - I am using Windows Firewall and Windows Defender along with my Router firewall. No third party suite. There is no error or alert message from the Windows Firewall and I have it set to notify me if there is a problem. When I try to access a folder on one machine or the other the error message dialog box has a title of "Network error" and the message in the box is: "You do not have permisssion . . . . . . . Notify your system adminstrator . . . . "

    Both laptop and desktop are using the same default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Both are set to obtain the default DNS automatically. I have no trouble with websites whatsoever, they appear quickly and accurately.

    I can ping back and forth from one to another with no problem.

    I am using a Lynksys WRT54g router. I had it when I had the Win7 laptop connected to my old XP Desktop and was able to network and share files with both of these computers with no problems. The problem started when I tried to network the Win7 laptop to my new Win8.1 desktop. I know the router is old but it functions better than the new TP-Link Archer C7 1750n router that I recently purchased. (it drops connections)

    On the laptop I have the following folders that are shared:

    Christine Documents
    D (drive)
    Downloads
    Favorites
    mSecure
    My Music
    My Pictures
    My Videos
    Paul Documents
    Users

    Strangely, from my desktop I can access the last two (Paul Documents and Users) through the network but not the other eight even though the settings on all folders "appear" to be the same. Could it be an issue with "ownership"?

    Also, there are four "Account Unknown" (with a long string of hypenated numbers following this phrase) in the Security tab of most of these folders. To my knowledge I didn't add them and I'm not sure how they got there. Could this have something to do with the problem? I deleted all four in the My Pictures folder as an experiment but it made no difference.

    Paul
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  7. #7


    Posts : 122
    Windows 8 64bit Pro


    it might be a ownership problem : Windows 8 Forums - Search Results
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  8. #8


    Quote Originally Posted by paulbasel View Post
    chev65 - I tried the method in that link you sent me HDD sharing - Windows 7 Help Forums. Didn't make any difference.

    broe23 - I am using Windows Firewall and Windows Defender along with my Router firewall. No third party suite. There is no error or alert message from the Windows Firewall and I have it set to notify me if there is a problem. When I try to access a folder on one machine or the other the error message dialog box has a title of "Network error" and the message in the box is: "You do not have permisssion . . . . . . . Notify your system adminstrator . . . . "

    Both laptop and desktop are using the same default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Both are set to obtain the default DNS automatically. I have no trouble with websites whatsoever, they appear quickly and accurately.

    I can ping back and forth from one to another with no problem.

    I am using a Lynksys WRT54g router. I had it when I had the Win7 laptop connected to my old XP Desktop and was able to network and share files with both of these computers with no problems. The problem started when I tried to network the Win7 laptop to my new Win8.1 desktop. I know the router is old but it functions better than the new TP-Link Archer C7 1750n router that I recently purchased. (it drops connections)

    On the laptop I have the following folders that are shared:

    Christine Documents
    D (drive)
    Downloads
    Favorites
    mSecure
    My Music
    My Pictures
    My Videos
    Paul Documents
    Users

    Strangely, from my desktop I can access the last two (Paul Documents and Users) through the network but not the other eight even though the settings on all folders "appear" to be the same. Could it be an issue with "ownership"?

    Also, there are four "Account Unknown" (with a long string of hypenated numbers following this phrase) in the Security tab of most of these folders. To my knowledge I didn't add them and I'm not sure how they got there. Could this have something to do with the problem? I deleted all four in the My Pictures folder as an experiment but it made no difference.

    Paul


    I'd like to see screen shots of the settings for the Security tab main Users folder on the drive you are trying to share.

    With Windows 7 it's also required to add permissions to the individual Users folder in order to remove the lock from the Users\Username folder in order to share them although this isn't required when you have already set up a Homegroup which appears to be the case. I'm referring to drive sharing here.

    They should match with picture #2 in the link below which shows the Users folder Security permissions.
    Windows 8.1 map network
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  9. #9


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1


    whest - thanks for the info on ownership but that is way beyond my capability and I don't want to mess with it.

    chev65 - see attached screenshots. In the security dialog I even have all the other groups, admins, etc. besides Everyone checked with full permissions.

    I am pulling my hair out with this problem. I have setup a number of networks in the past, had to make a couple of minor tweaks occasionally, but always succeeded. This one is beyond impossible.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails users_security.jpg   users_sharing.jpg   users_advanced_security.jpg  
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  10. #10


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1


    I think I have found the problem, or at least part of it.

    Since I have been working without a Homegroup for the last two days while testing, I decided to create a new one on the Desktop and then joined it with the laptop. However, I still could not access files in either direction. It was the original problem.

    I then created a new local user (Paul) on the AsusLaptop with admin permissions. Logging on with that account I am able to access all of the files on the D drive of the AsusMain desktop. So the original user account (Christine) on the laptop must be corrupted.

    However, in the other direction (from AsusMain to AsusLaptop) I only see 4 libraries on AsusLaptop with nothing in them (see screenshot), even though there are files in the "Documents" library on the laptop. Double clicking them does nothing. It is as if they are not folders or files, but simply placeholders of some kind - strange.

    At the bottom of the screen under Network are the 9 folders plus the "D" drive on the laptop. Only "Paul Documents" and "Users" are accessible. I think that is that because the others were create by the corrupted user account? Am I right about that?

    I don't care about the Libraries, I don't use them anyhow but I would like to know if there is a method of transferring files and settings from one account (Christine - the corrupted one) to my new Paul account? Or am I asking for trouble doing that. Worst case, I can make a current backup of the files and then just delete the Christine account and redo all the settings for the new Paul account.

    Finally, what advice do you also have for going back and resetting the security and sharing on both computers. I have changed so much that I really don't know where to begin.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails asusmain.jpg  
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