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Wifi seems fine but isn't. What's wrong?

  1. #1


    Posts : 11
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional

    Wifi seems fine but isn't. What's wrong?


    So,

    I installed my wifi PCI card's driver, and it seemed to work fine, as you can see here:

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    Even in my Network Connections, all systems seem go...

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    But when I go to my PC Settings, there's no wireless tab...

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    Then again, when I click 'Network', then 'Connections'...

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    There is a disconnected Wi-Fi connection...

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    The Network bar to the right when I click the connectivity icon only shows my LAN connection, though, and even has no Airplane mode or any adjustable setting...

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    ...
    This has gotten me confused. It looks as if I got a working wireless card, with a working driver, but have some kind of settings turned off or disabled, which I just can't seem to find... Why would it list under my Network Connections and PC Settings Connections if it wasn't? But then why doesn't it show up or isn't it of any use?

    netsh.exe reports I have no wifi card installed, though. :/

    Any help would be welcome as I'm lost...

    Greetings,

    ~ Nephatiu

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  2. #2


    Welcome Nephatiu,

    Can I suggest you look at Brink's Tutorial Wi-Fi - Turn On and Off in Windows 8 and 8.1 on a pc. This might help, or wait for a network expert to answer your question.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 11
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional


    I think I'm going to have to wait as that page just tells me stuff I'm unable to do, as you can see in my screenshots.

    Option One: I don't have an external on/off button;
    Option Two: My sidebar with Network Connections only shows the wired;
    Option Three: I don't have "Wireless"in PC Settings.

    Now,...

    I tinkered a bit with all sorts of drivers, making Windows BSOD a few times a long the way, eventually installing Sitecom WL-121v2, WL-121v3, which both gave the same as mentioned in my OP, then when trying WL-115 to try if the LAN-Utility which came with that version would run on other Sitecom drivers no Network Adapter could be seen in Network Connections anymore and I clicked the Driver Rollback function in Windows, which reverted it back to WL121v2.
    The reason I mention these steps is: Now my Wifi is connected to the first open wifi it found, which I had to find out myself as it does not state any SSID or Wifi signal quality in the Status-window like this:

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    I still have "No wireless interface on this system" in netsh, the connection icon in the Charms bar is still just the one it would be if it was my LAN cable connected (which is pulled out of the system right now, fyi), and I still have no "Wireless" settings anywhere what-so-ever.

    It seems to me the underlying Windows 7 base is accepting it as a valid wifi, but the new Windows 8 layer is seeing it as a wired connection. And because Microsoft took out all wifi connection settings from the underlying base, leaving only the Windows 8 touch settings for it that don't recognise my wifi as wifi, I'm a little stuck here...

    Greetings,

    ~ Nephatiu
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  4. #4


    Was the Wi-Fi card pre-installed + drivers, or did you install the card? If you installed the card and drivers try re-seating the card uninstall the drivers and start over. You could also check Microsoft Forums faq's for help with 8.1.
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  5. #5


    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    Download Speccy and post the URL that it gives for the results. Really cannot see anything in that first picture. Post a screen shot of Device Manager showing any errors. Can you also post the results from the following (open up a Command Window and type in the command in quotes): "netsh wlan show drivers" also "netsh wlan show all"
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  6. #6


    Quote Originally Posted by Nephatiu View Post
    So,

    I installed my wifi PCI card's driver, and it seemed to work fine, as you can see here:

    Click image for larger version

    Even in my Network Connections, all systems seem go...

    Click image for larger version

    But when I go to my PC Settings, there's no wireless tab...

    Click image for larger version

    Then again, when I click 'Network', then 'Connections'...

    Click image for larger version

    There is a disconnected Wi-Fi connection...

    Click image for larger version

    The Network bar to the right when I click the connectivity icon only shows my LAN connection, though, and even has no Airplane mode or any adjustable setting...

    Click image for larger version

    ...
    This has gotten me confused. It looks as if I got a working wireless card, with a working driver, but have some kind of settings turned off or disabled, which I just can't seem to find... Why would it list under my Network Connections and PC Settings Connections if it wasn't? But then why doesn't it show up or isn't it of any use?

    netsh.exe reports I have no wifi card installed, though. :/

    Any help would be welcome as I'm lost...

    Greetings,

    ~ Nephatiu
    Have you tried disabling the Ethernet connection to see if Windows will pick up the wireless?

    With older wireless G adaptors you may have a hard time finding an updated driver version for those. It may help to fill in the static IPv4 settings in this case.

    A screen shot of the ipconfig/all would really be helpful.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 11
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional


    Sorry for the delay, I've been spending all this time looking for and trying solutions, to no avail...

    Ok, here's the ipconfig /all:

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    And here's a few netsh interface commands showing the problem...
    Note: I have installed a few different drivers already with different names, but with the same device's hardware ID's, to see if any of them worked better, as I don't actually know which one is the actual maker. (There's absolutely nothing written on the card itself.)
    Also Note: The card that isn't working is "Wi-Fi"... The "Wi-Fi 2" is an USB dongle I lifted from one of my other pc's temporarily to see if that one would work fine, and it did. It can scan and it can connect.

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    And as asked above, here's some 'wlan show drivers' and 'all' screencap, but since it only mentions "Wi-Fi 2" and "Wi-Fi" can't be found as a wlan interface, even though everything in windows shows it as a wi-fi card, it's of no use...

    Also as asked, here's the Speccy-link:
    http://speccy.piriform.com/results/p...Da7Wvp43cCNdKy

    EDIT: Oh, right, and I did already disable and disconnect the Ethernet adapter, and I also reinstalled the drivers many times, from different vendors, but with the same hardware-id, and all give exactly the same result, which is logical as the only thing changed between vendor's files is the name it's given,... The .sys-file remains exactly the same for all, so...

    Grtz,

    ~ Nephatiu
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  8. #8


    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    You are showing using two wireless adapters, with one in use. The ZyAir should be working. If not, pull that USB Dongle. Reboot the computer and try and see if Wireless works then.
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  9. #9


    Central IL
    Posts : 3,468
    Linux Mint 17.2


    Your computer is running multiple instances of what should be legitimate programs, but can be malware in disguise. If I had to take an educated guess, that machine is infected, and needs to have the malware steps taken on it, to clean it up of any infections.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 11
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional


    Broe23, I'm a programmer and sometimes even more, so, those things I've tried multiple times already,... It's the first steps I take (usually more than once). Also, there's no spy-, ad- or any malware on it,... I can be sure because it's a clean install that hasn't seen any internet until now I'm installing it and the first things I've put on there we're V-scanners and such to protect it from any attack while putting it online and almost all changed code has been done manually.
    The USB Dongle has been put inside to see if it wasn't Windows missing files to be able to search for wifi, and has already been returned to it's own pc, so like I said: concentrate on "Wi-Fi" and don't mind the "Wi-Fi 2" connection as it was a temporary one for testing.

    As you can see, I have drivers that make them connect automatically to the first open network they see, but I just can't seem to have any control over that particular driver/card to scan myself, connect to anything I choose or to even disconnect it without disabling it.

    In short: No, it''s the driver/card at fault here, not spyware, not adware, no virusses and the Dongle was just to check if Wireless even worked on that OS. (I was thinking it had forgotten to install files for it, but the Dongle has proven that theory wrong as well.)

    So please, the basic stuff I've tried, and the usual hacks too... I've even tried editing the driver files with a copy of the Dongle's drivers next to it, but I couldn't seem to find any difference, as the Dongle identifies as 'wireless_#' and so does the card. :/ I can't seem to find what's wrong with it, even while engineering backwards...

    And I'll have to find it, because it just can't be a magical driver that just doesn't work without a reason. ;p

    EDIT: Oh, and the ZyAir or Sitecom or Funkwerk (FEC) or BL or ... -card is just a Prism Javelin or Prism Xbow ISL3886 card, so I've tried all possible variations of this card's base for drivers, where ZyAir was the one I tried at the time of the last screenshot. It's Sitecom 121v2 that first got it to access the internet automatically, but now I'm looking for a way to make it show it's scan results and instead of connecting automatically to an open, letting me choose a protected network.

    Grtz,

    ~ Nephatiu
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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