Solved How To DELETE Old Network Profiles ???

Katmandu

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I'm having some issues on my home private network (wireless). I have a wireless router, (2) PCs (8.0 and 8.1), (1) laptops (Win 8.1) and a new wireless printer. All the computers are able to access the router/internet individually, but do NOT show up in the Homegroup or Network tabs.

I also can not get my new wireless printer to show up at all....anywhere.

I have noticed the PCs are accessing OLD outdated network profiles. They then create NEW (dupicate) network profiles. ie... Router name - Silverbullet. One PC sees it, the other sees it but creates Silverbullet2 and another Silverbullet3. ?????

At this point in time, I am very confused and extremely frustrated!

Help!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
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    PC/Desktop
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    Home built
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    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
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    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
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The following link may help with the old network profiles.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/20085-wireless-network-profile-delete-windows-8-a.html

If the machines aren't showing up then perhaps Network Discovery and Printer and file sharing isn't enabled for the Private Network in the Advanced Network settings at the Network and Sharing center but I'm sure you checked that already?
Pretty sure I did. I'll check again when I get off work tonight.

Is it an issue if the PCs create NEW Network profiles ?

Also, does Windows Firewall have to be set to OFF/DISABLED before adding any new Wireless devices to a private network ?

What about the Anti-Virus program ? Does it need to be temporarily disabled to do the same ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The following link may help with the old network profiles.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/20085-wireless-network-profile-delete-windows-8-a.html

If the machines aren't showing up then perhaps Network Discovery and Printer and file sharing isn't enabled for the Private Network in the Advanced Network settings at the Network and Sharing center but I'm sure you checked that already?
Pretty sure I did. I'll check again when I get off work tonight.

Is it an issue if the PCs create NEW Network profiles ?

Also, does Windows Firewall have to be set to OFF/DISABLED before adding any new Wireless devices to a private network ?

What about the Anti-Virus program ? Does it need to be temporarily disabled to do the same ?

You normally don't need to turn off the Windows firewall as the rules are created automatically when you add the device.

You may need to disable the A/V or it's firewall, most third party A/V's can cause problems as you describe.

It shouldn't be creating new profiles all the time. It's best to connect to the router then designate the network as a Private Network for the type of Networking you are talking about.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/9837-network-location-set-private-public-windows-8-a.html
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
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    Thermal Take Xtreme
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    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Checked the settings and all seems ok.

ALL the PCs/Laptops connect to the wireless router/internet just fine but can NOT see each other!!

FRUSTRATED..........

Is there a router setting that is blocking them all from seeing each other or what ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Checked the settings and all seems ok.

ALL the PCs/Laptops connect to the wireless router/internet just fine but can NOT see each other!!

FRUSTRATED..........

Is there a router setting that is blocking them all from seeing each other or what ?

What exactly is the router arrangement because something must be off if those machines can't even see each other.

What anti virus are we talking about?

Were any of the User accounts moved from the default location at C:\Users
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
What exactly is the router arrangement because something must be off if those machines can't even see each other.

What anti virus are we talking about?

Were any of the User accounts moved from the default location at C:\Users
I'm not sure what you mean by the arraignment. ?? I can't even see/access the router on any of my PCs. ??? 192.168.1.1

I use --> AVG 2014 Anti-virus.

I haven't done anything with any User Accounts.

I'm wondering if it's a router setting. ?? I can't see it to check anything though. ??

I had a network problem (Not related to this current issue) on an XP machine where it was creating duplicate Network accounts. It was causing havoc connecting to the Internet. I was able to go in and Delete the old/obsolete ones so they would no longer interfere with the current one. As we know, Windows 8 takes all control away from the end user to be able to see these types of issues.

How can I get back to seeing my router settings ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
What exactly is the router arrangement because something must be off if those machines can't even see each other.

What anti virus are we talking about?

Were any of the User accounts moved from the default location at C:\Users
I'm not sure what you mean by the arraignment. ?? I can't even see/access the router on any of my PCs. ??? 192.168.1.1

I use --> AVG 2014 Anti-virus.

I haven't done anything with any User Accounts.

I'm wondering if it's a router setting. ?? I can't see it to check anything though. ??

I had a network problem (Not related to this current issue) on an XP machine where it was creating duplicate Network accounts. It was causing havoc connecting to the Internet. I was able to go in and Delete the old/obsolete ones so they would no longer interfere with the current one. As we know, Windows 8 takes all control away from the end user to be able to see these types of issues.

How can I get back to seeing my router settings ?

http://192.168.1.1 should be working. You might have to use compatibility mode on IE in order to use the routers buttons.

AVG can cause many problems here but most need to learn the hard way about third party AV's.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Hello Katmandu,

When you get into your router settings, check in the wireless settings to see if it may have a WLAN Partition (D-Link) or Enable Wireless Isolation (NETGEAR) setting to disable to allow wireless devices to be able to see and communicate with each other.

The last item in the red warning box at the top of the tutorial below can help show you more on this. It wouldn't hurt to check all the other items as well.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15831-homegroup-join-windows-8-a.html

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 
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    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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http://192.168.1.1 should be working. You might have to use compatibility mode on IE in order to use the routers buttons.

AVG can cause many problems here but most need to learn the hard way about third party AV's.
I tried IE and compatibility setting. Still can't see it.

I've used AVG since the late 90s with very little problems. I've even disabled it trying to get things to work.

???
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Hello Katmandu,

When you get into your router settings, check in the wireless settings to see if it may have a WLAN Partition (D-Link) or Enable Wireless Isolation (NETGEAR) setting to disable to allow wireless devices to be able to see and communicate with each other.

The last item in the red warning box at the top of the tutorial below can help show you more on this. It wouldn't hurt to check all the other items as well.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15831-homegroup-join-windows-8-a.html

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
Thanks for your input Shawn. I will do so after I figure out how to get my router to show up again.

I was able to see it previously, now I can't.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
You might try either unplugging the router for awhile or resetting the router using the reset switch on the side of the router.

This will sometimes get the router to show up again if they are messed up which seems to be the case. After that you will need to redo the wireless security settings password etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps

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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    MacBook Pro Core2Duo
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    T7600
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    3
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    ATI Radeon X1600
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    Internal
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    1440 x 800
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    40GB
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    Apple
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    Varies
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    Various
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    Defender
You might try either unplugging the router for awhile or resetting the router using the reset switch on the side of the router.

This will sometimes get the router to show up again if they are messed up which seems to be the case. After that you will need to redo the wireless security settings password etc.
I ended up doing this and IT WORKED !

Apparently, the router was somehow making duplicate Connections within itself. ?? ie Silverbullet (my router's name), Silverbullet 2 and Silverbullet 3. It was assigning the different connections to my different PCs/Laptops and they could NOT see each other.

So, doing a Full router RESET and making all new connections did the trick on this issue!

Thank you all for your input!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
You could also try this WiFi Profile Manager 8: View Preferred Wireless Network Profiles in Windows 8 to delete old access points. Note that you have to close the app and open it again to see that they are deleted so it is a bit flakey but it does work and is easier than doing it manually I think.
That's a decent little App!

ALL of the old access points do in fact show up there. It is buggy for sure! I tried removing one of the old (duplicate) Silverbullet access points and it ended up knocking me right off-line. ?? I just had to reenter my credentials under the new access point's name. I think I'll leave well enough alone and not remove the old access points (for now.).

Are there any other programs that show all the access points like this ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 also 8.0 w/8.1 upgrade
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
You might try either unplugging the router for awhile or resetting the router using the reset switch on the side of the router.

This will sometimes get the router to show up again if they are messed up which seems to be the case. After that you will need to redo the wireless security settings password etc.
I ended up doing this and IT WORKED !

Apparently, the router was somehow making duplicate Connections within itself. ?? ie Silverbullet (my router's name), Silverbullet 2 and Silverbullet 3. It was assigning the different connections to my different PCs/Laptops and they could NOT see each other.

So, doing a Full router RESET and making all new connections did the trick on this issue!

Thank you all for your input!

Good I'm glad that did the trick. You can mark as solved if it's fixed. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
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