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Your views on skydrive, please?

  1. #11


    Rudy: The external drive is only used for desktop backups, but recently has been giving occasional error messages. It was supplied up with an inbuilt WD proprietary program, the sole material benefit of which seems to be to give password protection for the drive. Am not sure if it's that prog which is at fault, in which case I could obviously reformat the whole disk without password protection. But I suspect that the drive is just on its way out. Although I've been using it for way over a year, comments on other forums (e.g. Amazon) do not appear to rate the drive highly. Naturally I don't want to wait until it finally packs up.
    Posts elsewhere indicate that sugarsync is quite specific about what file types it can accept, apparently not the two suffixes I mentioned. That leads me to wonder if the other clouds you mention are too?
    Now looks to me as if I need to set up desktop backup on my wife's laptop, and vice versa. But what's the best way? File sharing wouldn't be an issue.

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  2. #12


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    The trouble with any of these type of services is that they aren't really appropriate for DECENT backups -- an Acronis image of your system might be at least 30 GB - which even with decent internet will take a little while to UPLOAD (what the Ads fail to tell you is that the UPLOAD speeds are horrendously slower than downloads - usually -- sometimes 10X slower too and that doesn't take account of how busy the Cloud server might be as well).

    If you also need to restore your system in an emergency then most of the bootable recovery systems (Acronis, Free Macrium etc) won't normally have an Internet access available -- they are geared to be able to restore from local or network media. (Local can of course include external USB drives etc).

    For small files you want to share the service is fine - however for emails I can't see the point since any IMAP server gives you access to your emails whenever and wherever you want - and on any reasonable device too.

    I'd only tend to use these services if they were FREE - and these days a lot of businesses now BLOCK access to these types of "sharing Mechanisms" since they feel this could be a backdoor way of getting malware on to their corporate networks.

    @bungleberry -- simplest and cheapest mechanism is to save to an external USB -- small size 2TB one's available in the UK for around 60 - 70 GBP these days (inc VAT at PC World etc). If you have a NAS or a network drive accessible via both computers then store it there but IMO this is over the top for a simple application where you just need your backup images in case of system or hardware failure. I'd just go out and buy one of these small HDD's for your backup and use a program like Acronis or Free Macrium.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #13


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Quote Originally Posted by bungleberry View Post
    Rudy: The external drive is only used for desktop backups, but recently has been giving occasional error messages. It was supplied up with an inbuilt WD proprietary program, the sole material benefit of which seems to be to give password protection for the drive. Am not sure if it's that prog which is at fault, in which case I could obviously reformat the whole disk without password protection. But I suspect that the drive is just on its way out. Although I've been using it for way over a year, comments on other forums (e.g. Amazon) do not appear to rate the drive highly. Naturally I don't want to wait until it finally packs up.
    Posts elsewhere indicate that sugarsync is quite specific about what file types it can accept, apparently not the two suffixes I mentioned. That leads me to wonder if the other clouds you mention are too?
    Now looks to me as if I need to set up desktop backup on my wife's laptop, and vice versa. But what's the best way? File sharing wouldn't be an issue.
    Okay, you don't have the problems I encountered when using external hard disks.

    After I had reinstalled Windows on my PC, I suddenly got messages that I couldn't move, or delete, files because I had no access to them, even when my user account was still setup in the same way.

    I fixed all my external hard disk problems by formatting them to exFat. This is a system that works cross platform and doesn't add specific Windows clearance to the files. So, I can use my external Hard Disks on all my PC's and never run into access troubles because it doesn't recognize the user on that system.

    I was thinking maybe you had run into this problem as well.


    I have to say, I have external had disks in use from different brands, some of them I'm already using for 3 years or more and one of them, attached to my laptop, is active every day.

    I don't save any documents to my laptop, I only have my OS and programs on that drive, and my external hard disk is only used for hold my data and my backup image from my laptop. So, it's working like hell for me.

    You sometimes have to have a little but of luck with these things. I had a HD die on me after 6 months, and I still have an old IDE hard disk in a machine in the attic that's now almost 10 years old.


    And like jimbo45 says, backup through cloud is almost not done, or you need to have a very fast connection to an external datacenter. Else, it takes hours and hours to get it uploaded.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Also, be sure to back up skydive regularly. Friend of mine one day just woke up and his skydive was empty, it synchronized the empty directory back to his machine and he lost his data. He called MS and they said they had a problem and his data was lost and unrecoverable.
    Thanks for that - it's a useful cautionary tale

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Baking and tax info either should not be out there or protected in an encrypted folder with a tool such as Boxcryptor.
    Gotta look after those top-secret recipes!

    (I know it's only a 1-letter typo, but it made me smile! )
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