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Connecting Windows 8.1 to a Windows 7 Homegroup

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    Connecting Windows 8.1 to a Windows 7 Homegroup


    I upgraded my Windows 8 PC to Windows 8.1 yesterday and I am unable to reconnect it to my Homegroup (comprising of 2 Win 7 machines) or in fact get any communication between the Win 8.1 machine and the Win 7 machines. Prior to upgrading the Win 8.1 was part of the Homegroup. From the Win 8.1 machine: it initially detects the Homegroup as shown below,

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    it then asks me to choose file types to share and then asks for the Homegroup password which is when I hit problems as shown below:

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    In advanced sharing I have all 3 network types set to discoverable.

    As part of the debugging process I discovered that the Win 8.1 was not time synced to the others, when I attempted to sync the time from the various time servers in the Windows drop down box I found the Win 8.1 encountered errors and would not sync. I was eventually able to sync it to time-b.nist.gov.

    The other odd thing is that the keyboard does not work properly, specifically the characters above the numbers on the numeric keys are not correct, for example press shift 2 gives # instead of @. Have a suspicion these 2 things are somehow related.

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    Posts : 13
    Win 8.1 x64


    UPDATE

    1/ I was able to connect to Homegroup by enabling IPv6 on the Win 7 machines.
    2/ So now I have a situation where:
    a/ neither Win 7 machine can see the Win 8.1 machine
    b/ I can see the Win 7 machines in Homegroup on the Win 8.1 machine but when i attempt to look at the contents of the win 7 machines I get a pop-up saying they are not accessible.
    c/ when i attempt to look at the contents of the Win 8.1 machine from the Win 8.1 machine I get the same message (see below). There is only 1 user on this machine with admin rights.

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    Last edited by shag00; 24 Oct 2013 at 17:51.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shag00 View Post
    UPDATE

    1/ I was able to connect to Homegroup by enabling IPv6 on the Win 7 machines.
    2/ So now I have a situation where:
    a/ neither Win 7 machine can see the Win 8.1 machine
    b/ I can see the Win 7 machines in Homegroup on the Win 8.1 machine but when i attempt to look at the contents of the win 7 machines I get a pop-up saying they are not accessible.
    c/ when i attempt to look at the contents of the Win 8.1 machine from the Win 8.1 machine I get the same message (see below). There is only 1 user on this machine with admin rights.

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    So you are saying that you can't even view your own files on the Windows 8.1 machine? It sounds like something is royally messed up on this 8.1 machine, probably system files or the component store files are corrupted. I can only hope you are using the same Windows profile and User name as before.

    Obviously you will want to check the Advanced Sharing settings to make sure that Network Discovery and file and printer sharing are turned on for the Private Network. Although, even without those setting you should still be able to view your own personal files.

    Try running the first scan in the link below "sfc /scannow" let me know what it says after it completes.
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    Win 8.1 x64


    The scan returned, "Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations."
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    Quote Originally Posted by shag00 View Post
    The scan returned, "Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations."
    Is there by chance a third party anti virus software involved here?
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    Win 8.1 x64


    I use no antivirus on this machine at the moment.
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    Well I wouldn't worry about the Homegroup problem until you can access the files on your own machine which seems to be a bigger issue at the moment.

    It really sounds like the user profile has been corrupted on this machine, very strange to not be able to access your own files on your own machine. Fix a corrupted user profile

    Can you check the C:>Users folder >properties>Sharing tab, and Security tab to make sure the permissions resemble the ones in the picture.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails C Users Security tab Admin.PNG   share permissions for Everyone Users folder.PNG  
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    Win 8.1 x64


    Everything is largely the same except that the drive is not shared, moreover the share button is greyed out and cannot be pressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shag00 View Post
    Everything is largely the same except that the drive is not shared, moreover the share button is greyed out and cannot be pressed.

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    No share button ok, so it is a problem with the User account permissions or sharing wizard has been turned off. The User folder definitely needs to have sharing enabled although this doesn't explain why you can't see your own User folders.

    Try going into Control Panel> Folder Options, View tab, make sure that the Sharing Wizard is checked like in the picture. Hit Apply if you add the check mark.
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    Win 8.1 x64


    Settings are and were as per the above.
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