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Can ping but not see a Win8 machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankinbahia View Post
    Thanks again for the quick reply. I'm not sure what you mean by "...configure these A/V's to work with Windows...". Could you explain? Also, for the Win7 machine, I understand that Windows Defender pre-8 is anti-malware only, not anti-virus. Don't I still need an anti-virus app on that computer?
    Hi there.

    Another issue -- you usually need a User ID and PASSWORD on BOTH machines to see and share folders / directories. Test by using the same User id and password on both machines --you can change these again afterwards.

    Ensure also that the network / sharing center (Control panel) allows the computer(s) to be visible to other ones in the network. I'd also switch off the HOME NETWORK -- you don't need the machines to be joined via a home network.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by frankinbahia View Post
    I removed AVG (with their removal tool) and activated Windows Defender. No change, so I guess that lets the A/V off the hook. Any other ideas? Should I try over at sevenforums?
    Something doesn't seem right here, and the A/V on the Win7 machine can also create this type of problem, and the trial versions seem to create problems on a continual basis around here.

    Are you certain that both machines are using the same Workgroup name? It's very uncommon for a machine in a standard workgroup to simply not show up.

    Can you try to set up a Homegroup between these machines because the Workgroup functions are independent from the Homegroup.

    Homegroup - Create in Windows 8
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    Well, Jimbo, your last post steered me in the right direction. I went to Network and Sharing Center/Advanced Sharing Settings, and it automatically opened the Private (current profile) dropdown, with network discovery "on", as expected. Then I noticed another dropdown at the bottom of the page, for All Networks (which I'd never opened before, naively thinking that settings for Private networks -- the only type that I use -- took care of everything for me). Sure enough, in All Networks, password protection (which I don't need or use at home) was turned on. As I turned it off, I'm sure I heard Bill Gates laugh and say, "Gottcha, sucker!".
    A happy ending, thanks to your persistence, Jimbo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankinbahia View Post
    Well, Jimbo, your last post steered me in the right direction. I went to Network and Sharing Center/Advanced Sharing Settings, and it automatically opened the Private (current profile) dropdown, with network discovery "on", as expected. Then I noticed another dropdown at the bottom of the page, for All Networks (which I'd never opened before, naively thinking that settings for Private networks -- the only type that I use -- took care of everything for me). Sure enough, in All Networks, password protection (which I don't need or use at home) was turned on. As I turned it off, I'm sure I heard Bill Gates laugh and say, "Gottcha, sucker!".
    A happy ending, thanks to your persistence, Jimbo!
    I sent you to the Advanced settings on the first post? I edited by also putting a picture of the All Networks Settings in case anyone else gets confused. They appear nearly the same as the Private network settings.
    https://www.eightforums.com/network-s...tml#post250993

    Password protected sharing, either on or off will not keep you from seeing a machine on the network. That is controlled by the Network Discovery settings in the Private and All Networks settings.

    I believe the problem was that the settings for "All Networks" wasn't set up correctly, the same settings are required there as well which I mentioned in my first post, Network Discovery and File and Printer Sharing are the ones that required turning on.

    You also don't need to use a password in order to see or connect to other machines on the network. You only need a password for remote desktop to function.

    In fact Jimbo didn't send you to the Advanced settings at all, he only mentioned that it might work better if you set up a user password on each machine.

    I agree that the advanced network settings are confusing to say the least, there are multiple layers of settings there, Private network, then Guest or Public, then all networks, I just assumed you checked those as well when I posted the picture of the settings.
    Last edited by chev65; 03 Jul 2013 at 10:48.
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