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Consistent temporary network error

  1. #1

    West Auckland
    Posts : 107
    Windows 8 Pro Pack x64

    Consistent temporary network error

    Does anyone experience a delay in being able to access a network share? Upon going to Network and clicking on the desired computer, I get a network error; it cannot find the destination machine.

    After about 30 seconds of trying and trying again, it lets me in.

    I go into Network:
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    Then I try again after a minute or so:
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    And it lets me in no problem.

    I can get by but it's just a PAIN, like going over 100 speed bumps on a long road. You get there eventually but honestly; it should just let me in first time every time!

    All my shares have their security set to allow full access to EVERYONE and are shared through your usual share and specify permission. I don't bother with Home group as this 30 second access denied routine makes the home group unusable.

    I have a few other computers on the network and they all do the same thing to every other computer. Sometimes they let you in first time, but sometimes not.

    Anyone got the same? Any suggestions?

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  2. #2

    Posts : 4
    Windows 8 Pro x64

    Exact Same Problem

    On our network (wired) there are 3 computers - 1 Windows 7 Ultimate, 2 Windows 8 Pro. The Windows 8's were fresh
    clean installs - 1 BIOS and the other UEFI. The Windows 7 machine connects immediately to either Windows 8 machine. But through "Advanced Sharing" (no Homegroup) both Windows 8 machines trying to connect to any computer get the 0x80070035 error, when I try about 30 seconds later it connects no problem.
    If I use "Homegroup" I don't get the delay. I just don't like Homegroup, I want to share data drives not libraries. But here's the funny thing, if I connect through Homegroup first then immediately try via network there is no delay, but if I try through network first (of course I'll get an error) and then immediately try via Homegroup, now I'll have about a 30 second delay there also. I tried static IP's (after using DHCP) on the Windows 8 machines - no difference. Local Security Policy settings are all the same as the Windows 7 machine (note there are a few more settings in Windows 8). If I try by IP adress (192.168.x.x), it connects instantly. I'm hoping someone has some ideas.

    Windows 8
    Private Network
    Network Discovery=ON
    File and Printing Sharing=ON
    Allow Windows to manage Homgroup connections (recommended)=ON
    Password protected sharing=OFF
    Sharing 1 data drive per computer with both "Sharing" and "Security" set to 'Everyone" - "Full Control"
    Network Adapter drivers = all up to date
    Adapter Properties = Client for Microsoft networks - QoS Packet Scheduler - File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft
    Networks - Microsoft LLDP Protocol Driver - Link-Layer topology Discovery Mapper I/O Driver - Link-Layer topology
    Discovery Responder - Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) - Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
    Last edited by mrq2; 22 Feb 2013 at 17:29.
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  3. #3

    Posts : 4
    Windows 8

    I am also having this problem, and am at wits end.

    I went ALL IN with Windows 8. I have the Surface Pro and a desktop, htpc, and NAS server all running Windows 8. I set up the homegroup (mainly because the music app is a piece of poop that won't see my music on the NAS unless it's in a Library).

    I have tried what little I could find on the internet that seemed related such as disabling IPv6, turning off the indexing services, and turning off generating emails. All of these did not seem to fix the problem.

    My guess is it's something to do with File Explorer itself. I might try using an alternative file browser and see what happens.
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  4. #4

    Posts : 1
    Windows 7 Pro, Windows 8 Pro

    I made an account just to post and say I have the same problem with my new laptop (win8) when trying to access my desktop machine (win7).

    I've gone through every step I can think of to resolve the issue but to no avail. I'm happy (not in a vindictive way) that I'm not the only one suffering from this problem.

    Hopefully someone knows a fix or Microsoft are aware of the issue and we can network in peace.
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  5. #5

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012


    I too am seeing this issue and have been working on it for nearly a week. I have run a series of network traces, etc., but have not yet come up with anything concrete. I do believe it is related to an authentication challenge.

    I do have one workaround which solves the issue. If you map a drive to a share, any share, on the computer(s) that you wish to access via the Network selection in File will no longer experience this annoying delay. This is not a fix, of course, but is a reliable workaround. I believe this persistent share mapping addresses the underlying authentication issue, but I am not sure just how yet.

    I do hope that someone comes up with a fix for this. Having to map a drive to every Windows 8 system on my network in order to use File Explorer's network selection without this intermittent delay is very annoying.

    Dr Gary
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  6. #6

    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit

    Same problem here. You can try disabling the power management features on your network adapters. Device Manager > Network Adapters > Right click on your NIC or WIFI card > Select "properties" > Click on Power Management Tab > Untick "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power". Repeat on ALL adapters (wired and wireless) of ALL of your shared computers.

    This is not a sure-fire fix by any means. Sometimes it takes 30 seconds for the initial hook up but after that the shares remain visible and accessible.

    Dr. Gary's fix of mapping any share on the computer you are trying to access and having it to connect at start-up is a good work around also. I was using that before turning off the power management of my network cards to see if I get a consistent hookup. So far so good except for the slow initial share connect time.
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  7. #7

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    Greetings Mick,

    I also disabled the power management on all the network adapters, but it had no effect in my case. I don't see how this could be the cause of this issue in any event, since, at exactly the same time that I am unable to connect to a Windows 8 computer using another Windows 8 system, I am able to consistently connect to that same Windows 8 system with a Window 7 Ultimate system.

    On my network I have 12 systems. Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2012.

    From a Windows 8 Pro system I can consistently connect via File Explorer to Windows XP, Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2012. The symptom only occurs when I attempt to connect from a Windows 8 Pro or Enterprise system to another Windows 8 system and occasionally to a Windows 7 Professional system. After a annoying delay displaying "Network Path is not found", connectivity returns.

    I never have any issues connecting to any of the other various "flavors" from Windows 7. I have used WireShark to log network activity, but am still looking at the results. The drive mapping workaround still works for me 100% of the time.
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  8. #8

    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit

    Thanks Gary,

    The power management idea was something I tried out of desperation and it appeared to work at first. After a couple of days I started having issues again. I know it is aggravating as hell. The problem also affects my shared printers. No shared files = no shared printers either. I am going back to the mapped drive fix until this all gets sorted out. You would think that with some 3900+ posts here that somebody would have hit upon the answer by now.
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  9. #9

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012


    Thanks for the update. I agree, this issue is very frustrating because of just what you mentioned, i.e.., at times, it will simply disappear, then just as quickly, reappear.

    I have ruled-out a firewall bug on the non-local networked machine...simply because a Windows 7 system will always display the shares without issue. I believe this almost certainly must be an issue on the local Windows 8 client machine....i.e., the one attempting to display the shares with File Explorer.

    I do see some distinct differences in network activity between a Windows 7 client and a Windows 8 client during a failed attempt. This would seem to me to be a good lead to follow. When the symptom is not occurring ...the packets look the same between a Windows 7 and a Windows 8 machine...but when the symptom appears, the Windows 8 network packets are different.

    I think the share mapping workaround simply eliminates the need to re-authenticate each time you double click on a machine in File is in one of these re-authentication attempts that the failure least from what I can see so far.

    I did not observe this is the Windows 8 preview..although I cannot say for certain it was not present. I too am somewhat mystified that there is not a bigger outcry on the technology blogs. This is a fairly glaring issue...

    Dr Gary
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  10. #10

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    One Other Observation...

    Actually, after some further testing...connecting first with Remote Desktop does not prevent the issue.

    The share mapping remains the only reliable workaround...sorry for the confusion...
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