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Domain controller issue with Win8 and Server 2003...

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    Domain controller issue with Win8 and Server 2003...


    This is confusing. I've set up numerous computers on our domain before so I'm pretty well acquainted with the procedure.

    So we upgraded a computer in our domain from XP to 8 so my manager could see if our software would work in 8. That much I got done just fine (put simply, it does).

    The problem I'm having is that when I try to attach the computer to the domain, two things go wrong: first of all the network drives don't map. Not a big deal, I heard this was an issue with Windows 8 and logon scripts. I'd like to try to implement a Group Policy-based drive mapping system but Windows Server 2003 seems to be missing that capability (though supposedly that can be added back).

    The other, more troubling issue is that when I restart the PC, it seems to lose any connection it had to the Active Directory Domain Controller. The first time you hook it onto the domain it's just fine (you can freely go in and out of the servers without providing new credentials) but if you restart it loses that. After a restart I can't log in except with credentials the PC already knows and trying to access the file shares on the servers prompts me for a password entry. I can rehook it into the domain by redoing the whole process from the start but then restarting it after that will just blank out the AD DC credentials again. Mapping the drives would be impossible if I can't maintain a connection to the Active Directory.

    I pinged back the Windows 8 PC from the server side (which I logged into using Remote Desktop from the Windows 8 machine) so there's clearly communication happening. Is Windows 8 being rejected by the Active Directory for some reason? I looked on the AD list of PCs and when I select the Windows 8 computer it doesn't bring up an operating system version so it sounds like something is missing.

    Anyway, some clarity here might be nice.

    EDIT: Let me add an addendum: when we attach the computer to the domain, it gives us this error:

    ---------------------------
    Computer Name/Domain Changes
    ---------------------------
    Changing the Primary Domain DNS name of this computer to "" failed. The name will remain "[Our Domain]".
    The error was:
    [Something about not finding the domain controller.]
    ---------------------------
    OK
    ---------------------------

    I kind of ignored this at first but I suppose it's worth reporting.
    Last edited by SolidSonicTH; 17 Jan 2013 at 14:32.

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    I can't say for certain why it's forgetting the credentials and requires you to sign in each time, although that may be controlled by the Admin through the GPE.

    As for the DNS problem, your problem may be different but I've seen similar complaints and apparently it helps to manually add the Domain's DNS servers to the IPv4 properties of the network adaptor you are trying to connect with.

    Other connection problems with Server 03 can be solved by clicking on the link. This may help with the drive mapping problem.

    https://www.eightforums.com/network-s...2k-server.html
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    Florida
    Posts : 26
    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64


    I applied those fixes in that link but that doesn't seem to help with the fact the PC can't stay in the domain after joining it.

    I've joined numerous other PCs in our network to our domain in the past so I understand the procedure. We explicitly declare the DNS servers so that hasn't changed. It should know where to look for the domain controller but after joining the domain, it starts acting like it's not there.

    The weird thing is if I put in a fake domain controller, it takes longer to realize it's fake than if I put in the real domain controller (it idles for a few seconds before returning that the domain controller is nonexistent; if I give it the actual domain name it instantaneously reports that it's not there).

    EDIT: I'm thinking the problem is with our server. I reinstalled the whole OS (using the "Reset" option under Settings) and it still refuses to connect from a completely naked installation (no updates that might cause any difficulties). Is there some Windows Update that needs to be applied to Server 2003 to enable domain connectivity between it and a Windows 8 PC?
    Last edited by SolidSonicTH; 18 Jan 2013 at 10:32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSonicTH View Post
    I applied those fixes in that link but that doesn't seem to help with the fact the PC can't stay in the domain after joining it.

    I've joined numerous other PCs in our network to our domain in the past so I understand the procedure. We explicitly declare the DNS servers so that hasn't changed. It should know where to look for the domain controller but after joining the domain, it starts acting like it's not there.

    The weird thing is if I put in a fake domain controller, it takes longer to realize it's fake than if I put in the real domain controller (it idles for a few seconds before returning that the domain controller is nonexistent; if I give it the actual domain name it instantaneously reports that it's not there).

    EDIT: I'm thinking the problem is with our server. I reinstalled the whole OS (using the "Reset" option under Settings) and it still refuses to connect from a completely naked installation (no updates that might cause any difficulties). Is there some Windows Update that needs to be applied to Server 2003 to enable domain connectivity between it and a Windows 8 PC?
    If you performed a reset on this server it may have set it back to square one and it now requires you to reconfigure everything.

    With Windows 8 a reset pretty much takes you back to square one.
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    Florida
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    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64


    No no, this is an enterprise server that does real tasks for our operation. I'd never run any kind of drastic change like that without consent.

    I just reset the Windows 8 PC to see if it would erase an obstructing update but that was not the case.

    The Win8 PC is a sandbox PC (it was SUPPOSED to become my computer but this domain issue has basically blocked that from happening) so we can format it and do whatever we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSonicTH View Post
    No no, this is an enterprise server that does real tasks for our operation. I'd never run any kind of drastic change like that without consent.

    I just reset the Windows 8 PC to see if it would erase an obstructing update but that was not the case.

    The Win8 PC is a sandbox PC (it was SUPPOSED to become my computer but this domain issue has basically blocked that from happening) so we can format it and do whatever we want.
    Ok good I thought you reset the server somehow.

    I'm confused, is this Windows 8 Pro or basic/simple version?
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    Florida
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    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64


    Pro. Otherwise the domain join feature would be absent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSonicTH View Post
    Pro. Otherwise the domain join feature would be absent.
    Yes this is true and the Local security policy would be absent as well, and apparently it can't be hacked by creating D words in the registry, like were trying to do on another thread.

    I'm really not sure why this particular machine appears to be vanishing from the Domain. Maybe it's time to reformat this machine.
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    Florida
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    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64


    I think I did that (a system reset is supposed to set the computer back to zero). The problem lies either not on this computer or with Windows 8 itself.
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    Florida
    Posts : 26
    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64


    My boss figured out how to solve it. Apparently we had to assign something as the primary DNS that we otherwise NEVER use as the primary DNS to make it join the domain properly. For some reason, this worked (I don't even think that computer IS a DNS server) and our Windows 8 PC now functions correctly (it even mapped drives via script, which is something I didn't expect to work in Windows 8).
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