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  1. #61


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    About "Reset". It is a totally new install of the OS and requires Activation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    Yes we tried all that already
    Yes, I was clarifying that what he said about refresh is incorrect. And, I didn't feel the need to look through all the posts to see if he had tried the other two. So, I ask if he had tried the other two suggesting implicitly that he try them if not.
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  3. #63


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    Yes we tried all that already
    Yes, I was clarifying that what he said about refresh is incorrect. And, I didn't feel the need to look through all the posts to see if he had tried the other two. So, I ask if he had tried the other two suggesting implicitly that he try them if not.
    For some reason I thought that a refresh was the same as a reset, both new features and easily confused I guess. The reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows 8.

    It looks like the guts "system files" were somehow ripped out of that system.
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    For some reason I thought that a refresh was the same as a reset, both new features and easily confused I guess. The reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows 8.

    It looks like the guts "system files" were somehow ripped out of that system.
    Yea, I have bruises all over me...
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  5. #65


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    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    Yes we tried all that already
    Yes, I was clarifying that what he said about refresh is incorrect. And, I didn't feel the need to look through all the posts to see if he had tried the other two. So, I ask if he had tried the other two suggesting implicitly that he try them if not.
    For some reason I thought that a refresh was the same as a reset, both new features and easily confused I guess. The reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows 8.
    I don't think there is a system "re-installation" difference between refresh and reset--and, yes, "reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows." I can see why one might want to do a refresh rather than a reset if he believes that both Windows store apps and his files are "innocent" in regard to the extant problem. The individual's files should be well backed up whether doing a reset or refresh.

    To me, Reset your PC—Removes everything and reinstalls Win8 as under refresh.

    In contrast, as said above, to me Refresh your PC—Attempts to solve system problems by replacing system files without affecting user files (similar to what a repair install does WRT to system files at least under earlier Win versions). User files still should be backed up. Installed programs will have to be reinstalled except those from the Windows Store. A list of uninstalled programs is provided. Settings will be changed back to defaults.
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  6. #66


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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Yes, I was clarifying that what he said about refresh is incorrect. And, I didn't feel the need to look through all the posts to see if he had tried the other two. So, I ask if he had tried the other two suggesting implicitly that he try them if not.
    For some reason I thought that a refresh was the same as a reset, both new features and easily confused I guess. The reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows 8.
    I don't think there is a system "re-installation" difference between refresh and reset--and, yes, "reset sounds like it's the same as reinstalling Windows." I can see why one might want to do a refresh rather than a reset if he believes that both Windows store apps and his files are "innocent" in regard to the extant problem. The individual's files should be well backed up whether doing a reset or refresh.

    To me, Reset your PC—Removes everything and reinstalls Win8 as under refresh.

    In contrast, as said above, to me Refresh your PC—Attempts to solve system problems by replacing system files without affecting user files (similar to what a repair install does WRT to system files at least under earlier Win versions). User files still should be backed up. Installed programs will have to be reinstalled except those from the Windows Store. A list of uninstalled programs is provided. Settings will be changed back to defaults.
    znod, I didn't fully understand your post, so here is a actual case study :-(
    What I did first was a Refresh and it reloaded all of my custom settings and that did not work; I had the same exact problem (I ran sfc/scannow after the Refresh and it said that everything was ok). I then did a Reset and Reset cleans all data from the HD/partition and re-installs a complete new set of files which is what causes you to have to Activate after completion that isn't required for a Refresh. In other words, Reset is an original install on a newly formatted disk; the installation warns you before it does the Reset that it is going to delete everything and install new operating system.
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    I think we agree essentially, but my understanding is that refresh returns settings to defaults. But, you saw something else happen, so i assume you are right. I will check my sources again.

    Edit: This source, which I respect, says you are right about refresh.
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  8. #68


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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I think we agree essentially, but my understanding is that refresh returns settings to defaults. But, you saw something else happen, so i assume you are right. I will check my sources again.

    Edit: This source, which I respect, says you are right about refresh.
    The important thing is that we now have correct information in case someone does not have the activation code and "think" they want to do a Reset; that would be bad news...
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