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What REALLY is the windows 8 pro upgrade

  1. #21


    Install it once, immediately image. Why would you actually need to perform an install again. An image right after install is the same exact thing.

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  2. #22


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    Windows 8 Pro x64


    its the same thing as long as your HDD remains functional, in the event of a HDD failure would a pure upgrade copy only kind of screw you over???

    say i purchase the upgrade copy and make a day 1 image right after install... 3 months down the road my OS HDD crashes and can't be restored so i run down to my local best-buy and purchase a new HDD. i throw it in my system when i get home, now what? it seems to me like in this situation i have to install windows 7 first just so i can install my upgrade copy of windows 8 again.

    now if i had a full OEM win8 pro DVD that i torrent from the internet then can i just use this to install win8 using the CD-Key i legally purchased for that UPGRADE version of windows?

    I've had this situation happen before and don't want to leave myself hanging in the event it happens again
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  3. #23


    You can restore an image to a different hard drive, I do it all of the time.

    Yes, you would need to reinstall 7 if you didn't want to use an image.

    I would suggest if clean installs are this important to you, just but the system builder OEM full license. Or get a technet subscription which has lots of software for just 199.
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    how do you use a system restore though if all you have is a upgrade copy? will it still boot from bios and give the option to restore or is that a full oem option?
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  5. #25


    I image with either acronis or macrium, and I boot from their recovery media disks and lay the iamge back down from there.

    I would have to believe the ugrade disc would boot and let you do a system restore.
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    Posts : 76
    Windows 8.1 Professional


    Speaking from Experience, if you have an upgrade disk you will have to upgrade from a pre-installed windows deployment because it seems that Microsoft has stopped people from using a fresh install on an upgrade installation.

    I received Win8 Pro from the MSDN, and I could not get it to fresh install on any of my Hard drives, I actually had to install a copy of windows 7 and then install from the running version of windows 7.

    Just a heads up of what to expect.
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  7. #27


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    Win 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
    Speaking from Experience, if you have an upgrade disk you will have to upgrade from a pre-installed windows deployment because it seems that Microsoft has stopped people from using a fresh install on an upgrade installation.

    I received Win8 Pro from the MSDN, and I could not get it to fresh install on any of my Hard drives, I actually had to install a copy of windows 7 and then install from the running version of windows 7.

    Just a heads up of what to expect.
    So you can't format the partition/drive you're going to put Win 8 on?? When you start the upgrade can't you select the advanced(custom install option) and from there format the drive??

    EDIT: And yes the drive in question would have to have an approved version of Windows(Xp, Vista, 7 or 8RP)..
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  8. #28


    sweden
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    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
    Speaking from Experience, if you have an upgrade disk you will have to upgrade from a pre-installed windows deployment because it seems that Microsoft has stopped people from using a fresh install on an upgrade installation.

    I received Win8 Pro from the MSDN, and I could not get it to fresh install on any of my Hard drives, I actually had to install a copy of windows 7 and then install from the running version of windows 7.

    Just a heads up of what to expect.
    All versions from msdn is retail or volume, there is no upgrade iso.
    You must have done something wrong.
    There are no special dvd / iso for windows 7 or 8 upgrade. It is the same as retail.
    It is the keys which differ only.
    Last edited by PCmannen; 30 Sep 2012 at 19:42.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8.1 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by PCmannen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
    Speaking from Experience, if you have an upgrade disk you will have to upgrade from a pre-installed windows deployment because it seems that Microsoft has stopped people from using a fresh install on an upgrade installation.

    I received Win8 Pro from the MSDN, and I could not get it to fresh install on any of my Hard drives, I actually had to install a copy of windows 7 and then install from the running version of windows 7.

    Just a heads up of what to expect.
    All versions from msdn is retail or volume, there is no upgrade iso.
    You must have done something wrong.
    There are no special dvd / iso for windows 7 or 8 upgrade. It is the same as retail.
    It is the keys which differ only.
    I must have done something wrong the three or four times i tried to install it onto a cleanly formated SSD?

    Put in disk, run from disk, install to SSD, create the necessary partitions, installation, reboot and back to square one?


    The ISO i am using is from the MSDN, and it worked the one time i used it for a legit upgrade and i have had no problems after that, aside from the few glitches and stuff when playing games...


    There is really nothing i could have done wrong, i even tried a custom install on my laptop and it did nothing, So speaking from experience if you purchase an upgrade version you will have to upgrade from a previous windows Installation.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 14
    Win 7 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
    Speaking from Experience, if you have an upgrade disk you will have to upgrade from a pre-installed windows deployment because it seems that Microsoft has stopped people from using a fresh install on an upgrade installation.

    I received Win8 Pro from the MSDN, and I could not get it to fresh install on any of my Hard drives, I actually had to install a copy of windows 7 and then install from the running version of windows 7.

    Just a heads up of what to expect.
    So you can't format the partition/drive you're going to put Win 8 on?? When you start the upgrade can't you select the advanced(custom install option) and from there format the drive??

    EDIT: And yes the drive in question would have to have an approved version of Windows(Xp, Vista, 7 or 8RP)..
    I would say you probably CAN format the drive, assuming Win8 installs work similarly to Win7:

    Windows 7 Setup does its compliance checking before the phase of Setup where you format the disc. (Unlike with Windows Vista.) This means that you can format your existing hard drive, and blow away a previous Windows version, and not worry about activation. If it was there, Windows 7 will still activate.
    From here: Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media
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