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Suggested Steps To Take Installing And Setting Up Windows 8

  1. #41


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Welcome to Windows EightForums, DavidY. It's good to have you aboard.
    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    So what your saying is that one would have to manually transfer the files from a XP backup source?
    Well XP's built-in Backup creates files in .bkf format, but I couldn't find anything on Microsoft's site that would read them in Windows 8. There is this utility that can read an XP backup in Windows 7 but I couldn't find any indication that it would work in Windows 8.

    So (unless anyone knows different) I think that anyone wanting to do a clean Windows 8 install and transfer files from XP needs to use something other than XP Backup to do it; either copy files manually onto another disk, or use another backup utility that supports restoring of individual files or sets of files rather than restoring a whole disk image.

    I think there is a case for using XP Backup for the scenario in which your Windows 8 installation fails and you want to go back to XP, especially if you're not doing a clean install, but otherwise I believe you need something else.

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  2. #42


    San Antonio
    Posts : 34
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    Must haves - (Once you have Windows 8 Setup)

    ProductKeys (APP - FREE)
    WinDirStat - (Grab from ninite.com) [Keep tabs of full directories space size,previously only a cmd line tool from MS]
    ClassicShell - (Grab from ninite.com to ease the learning curve of Windows 8 to give you a start menu)
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  3. #43


    Quote Originally Posted by KentC View Post
    Must haves - (Once you have Windows 8 Setup)

    ProductKeys (APP - FREE)
    WinDirStat - (Grab from ninite.com) [Keep tabs of full directories space size,previously only a cmd line tool from MS]
    ClassicShell - (Grab from ninite.com to ease the learning curve of Windows 8 to give you a start menu)
    Hello, KentC. Welcome to EightForums.

    Thanks for posting your suggestions.

    Would you please expound on "ProductKeys (APP - FREE)". I'm not sure what you mean.

    Would you please expound on "WinDirStat". I'm not familiar with this utility. Is not "full directories space size" found in Disk Management? If so, which, in your opinion, is better for the information?

    Would you want ClassicShell listed in "Setup/Personalization"? If so, which part of that thread segment? Would you please expound on how that's performed?

    Thanks again for posting and yet again, welcome. It's good to have you aboard.
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  4. #44


    San Antonio
    Posts : 34
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KentC View Post
    Must haves - (Once you have Windows 8 Setup)

    ProductKeys (APP - FREE)
    WinDirStat - (Grab from ninite.com) [Keep tabs of full directories space size,previously only a cmd line tool from MS]
    ClassicShell - (Grab from ninite.com to ease the learning curve of Windows 8 to give you a start menu)
    Hello, KentC. Welcome to EightForums.

    Thanks for posting your suggestions.

    Would you please expound on "ProductKeys (APP - FREE)". I'm not sure what you mean.

    I can't wait for those Ebay laptops to get here, man I need a home Windows 8 machine! Sorry... i got two on the way!

    Back to the Product Keys App you get from the Windows Store. This is probably the biggest app development even though it's design is simple (I could of made it lol) it's very clean, comes from Microsoft, and helps you store VITAL product key information in a very simple WEB 2.0 format. I've already put this bad boy to work MANY times for my company. I love the simple ease this brings to the confusion. You can upgrade for 1.99 to the Skydrive Pro cloud redundancy option if you are the IT manager of your company if you see this as fit... I just locally store and screenshot our stuff and load it to the private cloud but Microsoft still sold me on the cheap offer to store on their colocations... hehe



    Would you please expound on "WinDirStat". I'm not familiar with this utility. Is not "full directories space size" found in Disk Management? If so, which, in your opinion, is better for the information?

    This is an amazing application any hacker or IT person trying to reclaim a ransacked production server would ABSOLUTELY need!
    In unix, you can run commands like df and grep,etc and see what is currently in use,etc

    WinDirStat is a disk usage statistics viewer and cleanup tool for various versions of Microsoft Windows.

    In windows XP, you have to grab the utility cmd line tool from Microsoft to do the same commands this application does in GUI now. It's them helping us quickly manage our PC's for possibly unauthorized usage.


    Would you want ClassicShell listed in "Setup/Personalization"? If so, which part of that thread segment? Would you please expound on how that's performed?

    I have given this application to many as a "Windows 7.8" desktop program transition ease of use for those "slow" to learn how to use the new start GUI menu and charms menu located on the right corners of the OS. The new hot feature is Hot Corners. Which many are kinda new to, that application eases the Desktop flow for workplace needs till one learns how to use the Windows Apps Store and New Start Menu Gui and Searching for Apps via Charms Menu


    Thanks again for posting and yet again, welcome. It's good to have you aboard.
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  5. #45


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    If someone using a "computer" (not a toaster) does not understand "F1 - help" or in Windows 8 moving the mouse to the edge to access charms (edge UI) - search - start - settings - power etc... then I question their skill set and they indeed may need help.
    Whaddaya think I done went and came here!?

    Seriously, once Windows 8 is installed, I sat there and looked at the screen wondering what to do next. Those colorful blocks all ran together in my poor muddled Windows 7 proficient mind! Yes, there was a block up there wanting to tell me how to get started, but, well . . . nothing was intuitive! You see, I have always kept my desktop free of any icons. I don't like 'em at all.

    As I've stated before, in another thread, I sat there and looked at the thing, moving my mouse around and around, making him dizzy in the process, and finally hit the "charms" bar. (Now, who thunk up that silly name?) After going down the list to see what was there, I finally found the power button under Settings no less. Dumb da Dumb Dumb . . .

    So, yes, I came here desperately needing help with Windows 8. Half of the hints and tips don't work on my computer. Probably because I've installed no less than three 'start menu' apps and removed them all. At any rate, I'm considering a reinstall so that I can dual boot Windows 8 and Windows 7. Reasoning is that when I get tired of fighting with Windows 8, I can go back to Windows 7 and have a little peace and quiet.

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  6. #46


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    If someone using a "computer" (not a toaster) does not understand "F1 - help" or in Windows 8 moving the mouse to the edge to access charms (edge UI) - search - start - settings - power etc... then I question their skill set and they indeed may need help.
    When I'm on the Start screen, and I press F1... nothing happens.

    No Help coming from that source.

    The same is true of the Modern/Metro style apps I tried (apart from IE which retains quite a few of its shortcuts from the Desktop version).

    Has Microsoft ditched the "F1=Help" rule?
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  7. #47


    Hello there. F1 works on the desktop to bring up help as in past OSs. On the Start Screen it's listed in the Charms Bar under settings. That opens up help online with the Modern IE 10. It's more internet/cloud centric.
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 11 Feb 2013 at 15:52.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 2
    windows 7 pro 64 bit


    Hello, thank you for the guide. I have one question. I just got a lenovo y500 with windows 8 on it. I want to do a clean install with Windows 8 Pro. Will the key that's already programmed in the BIOS screw up my installation or will it just let me put my pro key in?
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  9. #49


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    If you have Windows 8 core, meaning the base standard, it will reinstall as Windows 8 core. The Pro upgrade will have to be applied after install. If you have a Windows 8 Pro install .iso, it will install as Windows 8 core due to the precooked key.
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  10. #50


    thanks for your helpful suggestion here as this Win version is new with many unique features .. in such case it is pretty obvious that anyone may get stuck at any point .. through your post here all is well clear
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