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Anusha

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I have windows 8 RP installed. I want to install windows 7 as dual boot. What will happen to the boot loader and stuff? Will I not be able to log into windows 8?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790K @4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus VII Gene
    Memory
    16GB A-DATA DDR3-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    QNIX QX2710
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 series 250GB
    Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data)
    Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
    PSU
    Silversonte G series 750W
    Case
    Silverstone Sugo SG09
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps/200Mbps Fibre
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I havent trued that yet, but I think it's better to install Windows 7 first
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10.0.10122
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    My Build - Vorttex Ultimate
    CPU
    Core i7 @ 4500 MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Z87-Plus
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @ 1822 MHz (OC)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon R9 280X 3GB @ 1180 / 6800 MHz
    Sound Card
    7.1 HDA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD LG 22" + CRT LG 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1760 x 1320 / 1280 x 960
    Hard Drives
    1 x 240 GB SSD (System)
    3 x 500 GB HDD (Data/Media)
    1 x 2000 GB e-HDD (Backup)
    PSU
    ThermalTake 1000W PSU
    Case
    Corsair Carbide R300
    Cooling
    Corsair H60 (Push-Pull)
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60 Mbps (Down) 5 Mbps (Up)
    Browser
    IE, FF, Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security 2015
    Other Info
    Some wired stuff
Actually I have a lot of OSes installed in this PC (work related) and have 3 Windows installations + Windows 8RP installation. I need to install another 7 on it. I cannot start from the scratch.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790K @4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus VII Gene
    Memory
    16GB A-DATA DDR3-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    QNIX QX2710
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 series 250GB
    Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data)
    Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
    PSU
    Silversonte G series 750W
    Case
    Silverstone Sugo SG09
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps/200Mbps Fibre
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Anusha said:
I have windows 8 RP installed. I want to install windows 7 as dual boot. What will happen to the boot loader and stuff? Will I not be able to log into windows 8?
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Welcome Anusha :)

No, you should be able to log in Windows 8.

Please See: I guess you now have a metro boot menu, since you say you have 4 os installed, and Windows 8 was the latest installed os. If you install a Windows 7 now, you will lose the metro boot menu. It will be replaced by the text-based boot menu of the new W7 installation. Its difficult to bring it back. I so far haven't succeeded in doing so :(

Anusha said:
Actually I have a lot of OSes installed in this PC (work related) and have 3 Windows installations + Windows 8RP installation. I need to install another 7 on it. I cannot start from the scratch.
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What are the other three Windows Installations? So you have this many different partitions? What do you mean by saying install another 7? Do you already have a W7 among the other three installed os?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Linux Mint 14
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion g4
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1 GB Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500 GB HDD
Actually losing the metro boot menu is a plus in my case.

I have windows 7 HP x64, windows 7 ultimate 32bit, windows 7 ultimate x64, windows vista ultimate 32bit, windows 8 release preview x64 already installed on this PC. All these are in different partitions. This is for testing printer drivers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790K @4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus VII Gene
    Memory
    16GB A-DATA DDR3-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    QNIX QX2710
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 series 250GB
    Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data)
    Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
    PSU
    Silversonte G series 750W
    Case
    Silverstone Sugo SG09
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps/200Mbps Fibre
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Anusha said:
Actually losing the metro boot menu is a plus in my case.

I have windows 7 HP x64, windows 7 ultimate 32bit, windows 7 ultimate x64, windows vista ultimate 32bit, windows 8 release preview x64 already installed on this PC. All these are in different partitions. This is for testing printer drivers.
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:thumbup: Then Go forward and install W7. You should be able to boot in W8 normally, if nothing unexpected happens :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Linux Mint 14
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion g4
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1 GB Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500 GB HDD
Arpan said:
Anusha said:
Actually losing the metro boot menu is a plus in my case.

I have windows 7 HP x64, windows 7 ultimate 32bit, windows 7 ultimate x64, windows vista ultimate 32bit, windows 8 release preview x64 already installed on this PC. All these are in different partitions. This is for testing printer drivers.
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:thumbup: Then Go forward and install W7. You should be able to boot in W8 normally, if nothing unexpected happens :)
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One problem though. Can I disable driver signing in Windows 8 (by going through advanced startup options in control panel) without the Windows 8 boot loader?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790K @4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus VII Gene
    Memory
    16GB A-DATA DDR3-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    QNIX QX2710
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 series 250GB
    Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data)
    Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
    PSU
    Silversonte G series 750W
    Case
    Silverstone Sugo SG09
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps/200Mbps Fibre
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I think you should be able, without the W8 boot loader. In the text based boot menu, highlight W8 and press F8 for advanced options.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Linux Mint 14
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion g4
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1 GB Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500 GB HDD
Never tried 7 after 8 install but I think 8 will still remain on the boot list because the boot-loaders are much alike.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
I had installed W7 after W8. Windows 8 remains in the boot list exactly like any other OS would.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Linux Mint 14
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion g4
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1 GB Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500 GB HDD
I can confirm Arpan's post. I have done it several times without problems. The old Windows 7 text boot menu with 8 included. And yes, driver signing can be disabled as with 7.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Use several different computers during a day, so specs are irrelevant.
Anusha said:
Actually losing the metro boot menu is a plus in my case.

I have windows 7 HP x64, windows 7 ultimate 32bit, windows 7 ultimate x64, windows vista ultimate 32bit, windows 8 release preview x64 already installed on this PC. All these are in different partitions. This is for testing printer drivers.
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Just a query here -- but surely if you basically just want to test printer drivers why not install all these as Virtual machines -- you'd only need a tiny OS for each VM if you were just basically testing printers.

Seems that this application is TAILOR MADE for using Virtual Machines. You can use VMware player (Free) VirtualBox (free) or even Virtual PC from Ms.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
jimbo45 said:
Anusha said:
Actually losing the metro boot menu is a plus in my case.

I have windows 7 HP x64, windows 7 ultimate 32bit, windows 7 ultimate x64, windows vista ultimate 32bit, windows 8 release preview x64 already installed on this PC. All these are in different partitions. This is for testing printer drivers.
Click to expand...

Just a query here -- but surely if you basically just want to test printer drivers why not install all these as Virtual machines -- you'd only need a tiny OS for each VM if you were just basically testing printers.

Seems that this application is TAILOR MADE for using Virtual Machines. You can use VMware player (Free) VirtualBox (free) or even Virtual PC from Ms.

Cheers
jimbo
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i need to measure the rendering performance. so i need real PCs.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790K @4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus VII Gene
    Memory
    16GB A-DATA DDR3-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    QNIX QX2710
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 series 250GB
    Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data)
    Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
    PSU
    Silversonte G series 750W
    Case
    Silverstone Sugo SG09
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S
    Keyboard
    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitech G602
    Internet Speed
    200Mbps/200Mbps Fibre
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Hi there
that's fine - but without that piece of information VM's seemed to be the obvious way to do it.

The overhead actually of VM's these days can be really tiny -- and if you use something like HYPER-V on W8 -- FREE ( but it's a bit more complicated to set up) you can use "Pass thru" which means the VM can access the real hardware so your rendering time would be 99.9% accurate -- more than enough for the average printer user I would have thought.

I'm surprised that for this purpose if you really DO need to test this stuff out on Physical real machines that your company hasn't given you a second and possibly a third machine --- a machine for this purpose could be a quite modestly priced PC or even a used one. Without knowing the specifics it seems there are easier ways of managing the application than how you have to do it now.

Anyway good luck -- I haven't dual booted systems for YEARS now and have some old equipment such as an HP Plotter (still works fine) running perfectly on a W2003 server VM which is running on a W8 Host via HYPER-V. Works a treat.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
totally off topic but perhaps you guys have a solution to a problem

I have some software that requires net framework 3.5 ( most of them do ), but when I try and install it wont let me as it tells me that net framework 4 is already part of the op system, why cant software I try and install detect that
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 32 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hp G72 B01 sa
    CPU
    320 gig hard, 4 gig ram. p6100 proc
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