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MSDM key wont activate? Embedded key..

  1. #1


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    Windows 7 64bit

    MSDM key wont activate? Embedded key..


    So this is a first for me. Ive had to deal with warranty motherboards before. But this one actually spits out a embedded key. When you try to activate with the key it says that this key cannot be used. Windows even picks this key up for one reason or another on its own during the install.

    Any ideas? Its a HP Cheapo laptop im working on.

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  2. #2


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    Windows 7 64bit


    The windows PID checker site shows this key that the motherboard is giving as invalid.

    It ends in 8FF28 incase anybody coming along wants to try to say im trying to activate the generic key to load 8.1 on a 8 machine to change the key later.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    ProductKey Finder

    the embedded key is being read, if you are not asked to provide one..

    Disconnect from the internet and activate by phone - if asked it is a HP repaired your mobo and only activated once on same PC
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  4. #4


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    Windows 7 64bit


    Microsoft says the key was never a legal key. It is pulling it as an embedded key from the motherboard tho and product key finders also say its the MSDM key. Customer has to call and fight with HP on the issue now but atleast its still under warranty. Ive just never seen a key get read by the setup but it wont activate inside windows.
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  5. #5


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    the key was flashed into the firmware somehow..
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  6. #6


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    Windows 7 64bit


    I didnt know that flashing of a key into the firmware was something that there was software publicly available to do? The OEM's cant even seem to do this on warranty boards and thats why they do those paper codes or whatever they call them.
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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    kinda my point too..
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  8. #8


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    You have two things -

    One is the 25 digit product key - xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
    the other is a 20 digit Product ID - 00000-00000-00000-ABCDE
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  9. #9


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    This vbs script will show your OEM & Installed keys---

    ShowKey v1.3.vbs

    Click image for larger version
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  10. #10


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by radzer0 View Post
    I didnt know that flashing of a key into the firmware was something that there was software publicly available to do? The OEM's cant even seem to do this on warranty boards and thats why they do those paper codes or whatever they call them.
    As far as I know flashing your BIOS does not change the embedded key. The product code is stored in a section of the BIOS that is not altered when you flash it. By flash it I mean update it with a newer version. Something you or I could do. I've done it on my laptop and my Embedded key was not altered. It's made hard to change or add by design. If it was easy to change or add a key it would make it easy for someone to attempt to pirate windows. Each Windows 8 PC that has an embedded key has it's own unique key, That means Microsoft has to keep track of what keys each OEM uses. Your new key must not be on that list. I would think its the OEM you call on that one. You can override the OEM key and make Windows use a different key if you want. It can be done during the install with a PID.txt file or an autoanswer file. After the install you can enter a different key though the "Change product key" option on the system page or with a script.
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