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Migrating Windows 8.1 to a new Samsung 850 Pro SSD (v2.0!)

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    Migrating Windows 8.1 to a new Samsung 850 Pro SSD (v2.0!)


    Hello everyone. I'm back. The v2.0 in the title is for the fact that I had a very similar problem to this one 2 years ago that I posted about here when I was migrating my Windows 8 from the installed HDD to a Samsung 830 256 GB SSD.

    I realized I needed some more space on my SSD so I just went and bought myself a Christmas present in the form of a Samsung 850 Pro SSD 512 GB. I was pretty confident that this was gonna be easier this time around, but it turns out it's not.

    Admittedly the solution to the problem will probably come from Samsung rather than you guys, but I am gonna post my story here and see if we can come up with a solution.

    Here's what I have done so far:
    1) Installed the Samsung Migration software from the CD that came with the new SSD.
    2) Booted up the program.
    3) Selected the Samsung 830 as my source disk.
    4) Connected the 850 Pro via a SATA-USB cable, and selected the 850 Pro as the target disk in the program.
    5) Started the migration/cloning program.
    6) It gets to 99% and then pops up with the error code 400110 [061aee].

    Okay... so I attempt to look up this error code online, and the only place I could find error codes for Samsung Migration software is here, under "What should I do when the Data Migration Error code appears?" Of course, this error code isn't listed.

    I find a place where it says the source disk needs 20% space free in order for the software to work properly. So I transfer enough random things to a USB so I have enough free space on my source disk. I try this entire thing again, and it gets stuck at the same error code.

    So I attempt to live chat with Samsung customer service, who gives me a number for another customer service for SSDs because this is too specific of a problem for live chat. Unfortunately again, their office is closed for the holidays. Perfect.

    At this point I start looking for alternate migration programs. I am looking for a FREE program, because I already paid $300+ for this new SSD. Here is the official forum post about migrating the OS, which was inspired by the thread I had created and all the discussion there. Unfortunately again the free version that Paragon offered (and I had successfully used 2 years ago) no longer exists. So my question is this: what is the best free migration software I can use to migrate my Windows 8.1 OS to my new, bigger SSD?

    Edit: I have tried EaseUS and was unable to successfully run that properly. Now I am trying Macrium Reflect (free edition) and I can't seem to get the program to expand the C: drive to take up the remaining empty space. It just wants to copy over the 203 GB C: and do nothing with a 258 GB unused space.
    Edit 2: Nevermind, the dragging to take up new space must be done sequentially in the program. I am starting to copy now.

    Edit 3: Macrium Reflect cloning was completed. I chose not to copy over the recovery partition, because I don't want it because I am just going to create a clone of my 512 GB drive on my external (which was really my original HDD in the laptop) as backup. I swapped SSDs and upon booting it... didn't work. I got a blue screen and error code 0xc0000225. Next plan: I think I will just try to make another copy WITH the recovery drive to see if that works. That's 20 GB, 4% of my drive, rendered useless. *sigh*
    Last edited by Epoch; 01 Jan 2015 at 21:49.

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    MR provides the option to make a WinPE boot CD/USB -- which, after you boot from it, provides an option to repair the boot files.

    You should try that to see if it works for you.
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    Does your Lenovo have onekey recovery? if yes did you make a system image to a external HDD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    MR provides the option to make a WinPE boot CD/USB -- which, after you boot from it, provides an option to repair the boot files.

    You should try that to see if it works for you.
    Ah yes, WinPE, the thing I had never heard of that Macrium wanted me to download 400 MB of the first time I went to check out this program. I finally did because people said it worked.

    So let me get the order straight here: I
    1) Clone in Macrium successfully.
    2) Make the WinPE bootable USB.
    3) Swap the old drive with the new drive in the laptop.
    4) Plug in the WinPE USB.
    5) Boot up the computer, and presumably follow on screen instructions.
    6) Thereafter, have the ability to boot straight from the new SSD with a cloned copy of my old drive??? That would be success. I will try this tonight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Does your Lenovo have onekey recovery? if yes did you make a system image to a external HDD?
    It does. I have a dedicated USB as a "recovery drive", but from my understanding recovery drives will WIPE the drive that you apply it to (that is, fresh install). This is not what I want. I simply want my computer in the same state as it is in now, but on a 512 GB SSD instead of 256 GB SSD.

    In fact I plugged in this "recovery drive" USB when I had the new SSD in with the error code, and instead of getting to the error code it booted to a "Choose language" and then "Choose keyboard layout" menus. I didn't want to go any further because, again, my understanding is that it would have done a fresh install on the installed drive, which I don't want to do.

    Edit: Do you mean something like this? So is the plan you are suggesting to create a system image to an external HDD (in reality it would be my 512 GB SSD connected via a USB to SATA cable), then simply swap the new drive in for the old drive and boot up? The only real problem I forsee is that I might not be able to change the partition sizes if it's making an exact system image. In which case it would be useless.
    Last edited by Epoch; 02 Jan 2015 at 17:36.
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    I was thinking of onekey recovery and putting the system image(.wsi & .dsi) on the new disk , like you used to be able to do in windows 7. For the Samsung migration too to work you need a disk caddie, the cable alone is not enough.
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    Hello there,please mind the intrusion.You could image your 128,either on itself or an external "disk" and with Macrium's "restore" option,simply choose to restore to the 512 drive.Reboot,choose 512 as boot drive,should be up and running,extending partition afterwards to the full 512 size,should not be an issue.Did it two days ago,while running 8 and restoring a seven image to a newly installed drive.Installed devices,re-rebooted,worked like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proudtobegreek View Post
    Hello there,please mind the intrusion.You could image your 128,either on itself or an external "disk" and with Macrium's "restore" option,simply choose to restore to the 512 drive.Reboot,choose 512 as boot drive,should be up and running,extending partition afterwards to the full 512 size,should not be an issue.Did it two days ago,while running 8 and restoring a seven image to a newly installed drive.Installed devices,re-rebooted,worked like a charm.
    This sounds like a reasonable plan too, similar to the one posted above. I just didn't know it was easy to resize partitions afterwards. Would Macrium be able to do this, or does Windows have an option (in the "Manage" ==> "Storage" ==> "Disk Management"?) Wait, this sounds very much like cloning but with an added "disk" in it. Actually I'm confused how this would work at all.

    So here are the steps of your suggested plan???
    1) Make an image of the 256 GB on an external HDD (like a normal backup) via USB-SATA cable.
    2) While the externall HDD is still connected, connect the 512 GB SSD with a second USB-SATA cable.
    3) Click restore option for the 512 GB drive, from the image on the external HDD.
    4) Reboot, choose 512 GB drive as boot drive to check if it worked.
    5) Swap SSDs if it did or even if it didn't?

    Is this any different than using the "Clone" feature and cutting out the middle-man of the external HDD?
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    I agree with the others about Macrium Reflect. If you have another drive, your profile shows you have a 500GB Hard Drive. Just make the bootable rescue media on a flash drive (make sure you can boot from it). Then image the SSD to the hard drive and then switch out the old SSD with the new one and at boot use the flash rescue media to restore the image onto the new SSD.

    I don't use windows system restore so I have restored my SSD quite a few times from the hard drive. It's worked every time without any problems and everything (all the data) gets put back exactly the way it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronster View Post
    I agree with the others about Macrium Reflect. If you have another drive, your profile shows you have a 500GB Hard Drive. Just make the bootable rescue media on a flash drive (make sure you can boot from it). Then image the SSD to the hard drive and then switch out the old SSD with the new one and at boot use the flash rescue media to restore the image onto the new SSD.

    I don't use windows system restore so I have restored my SSD quite a few times from the hard drive. It's worked every time without any problems and everything (all the data) gets put back exactly the way it was.
    Ohhhh this makes a lot of sense now.

    1) Make bootable USB drive with Macrium, ensure you can BOOT from it.
    2) Image current SSD to the external drive via USB-SATA cable (you are correct I have a 500 GB HDD, it was my original HDD for my laptop)
    3) Swaps SSDs.
    4) At boot use bootable USB to restore image from external drive via USB-SATA to new SSD

    Alright this sounds like a good plan. I will try this in 30 minutes or so. Thanks!

    Edit 1: Step 1) was successful. Getting stuck on Step 2). I can't get the image to save at an off-drive destination... even though Macrium clearly recognizes the drive that is plugged in at USB. Ha, even when I try to click on a folder that is on disk, it shows an error and says the image will be on the disk it's trying to copy. Here's a picture of what I get when I click browse in folders.
    Click image for larger version
    As you can see, top disk is my current disk. Bottom one is the ORIGINAL 500 GB hard drive that came in my laptop. Instead of wiping it all clear, I kept the original instance of the C:, made a new S: partition for my backups of my 256 GB drive.

    Edit 2: Nevermind, I figured it out. You literally just type the pathway in and it will work. However I need to rearrange my partitions on my external so I have enough room to image the ENTIRE thing (minus the stupid recovery partition, not including that anymore).

    Edit 3: Hm... haven't swapped yet but I will. However my image file is like 40 GBs less than what it says it should be when I initialized the image. It's 130 GB and my C: alone is 166 GB. So that almost certainly means something messed up, right? Or did it just compress things well? I do have like 70 GB of .wav files on my C:.

    Edit 4: Success overall! Now I need to get rid of this 256 GB SSD... no use for it as storage.
    Last edited by Epoch; 03 Jan 2015 at 07:15.
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    Woohoo!!! I did exactly what you said, and once I exited the program, the computer automatically rebooted and went to my desktop. I also got rid of the recovery partition, and resized the "Lenovo" D: parition from 12 GB down to 4.25 GB, so my C: is 470 GB big.

    Now to move back over the stuff I had previously moved, then download some stuff, uninstall Macrium, then make a normal Windows made image on the 500 GB external as back up.
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