Solved Windows 8.1 not acting like 8.1

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Hey guys/gals

Just installed Windows 8.1 pro on a newly bought SSD drive, and for some odd reason, even though it says 8.1 on the system page. it's not acting like 8.1 as it's missing some stuff. First off, there's no search window or option to turn off or restart the PC next to my name on the start screen. And when you open an app, there's no X or close button.

This is installed from install disk I got a while back, and I know the disk is good, because it's the same disk that I used to install the original copy of 8.1.

And yes, I have all the latest updates installed, and Windows is activated. Perhaps I'm over looking something?

Suggestions???

Thanks.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
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    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
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Edit: Looks like I didn't have all the updates installed. Just download a 900 meg update, last 4 of the KB is 9355, which is apparently a big update for 8.1. Anyway once that installed, all is normal now.

I guess I figured Windows was finished with all it's updates and had checked back to see if there were more out. The other thing is I already have an 8.1 ISO so it's somewhat baffling some of these feature would have been missing since they were a part of the original 8.1 update :confused:

Anyway the issue is solved.

Thanks
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built by me
    CPU
    Haswell i7-4770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire R9-280 Vapor X
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster ZXR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242W - 24 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 1000 G2
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Closed Loop Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    High Speed
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Norton Security
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    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v
You didn't have Win 8.1 Update 1. That's where these came from:

search window or option to turn off or restart the PC next to my name on the start screen. And when you open an app, there's no X or close button.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
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    PC/Desktop
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    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
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    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
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    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
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    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
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    500W
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    Wired USB
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    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
It actually is

The disk I have is an actual 8.1 disk, with its own PID key. I got it through my school who is an active participant in Microsoft's DreamSpark program....

DSP Software.PNG

I can also get a copy of 10 there as well.

Anyway this is why the issue was a bit baffling to me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built by me
    CPU
    Haswell i7-4770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire R9-280 Vapor X
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster ZXR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242W - 24 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 1000 G2
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Closed Loop Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    High Speed
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Norton Security
    Other Info
    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v
Man I need to go back to school :). I think if memory servers me right ztruker is correct, those features came with the 8.1 update 1
 

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  • OS
    W10 Pro X64
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dude
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5 GHZ Turbo
    Motherboard
    MSI Z77MA-G45 (MS-7759)
    Memory
    8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY GTX 760
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
    Screen Resolution
    DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial m4 256 SSD WD 7200RPM 500GB
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    Seasonic X650 Gold
    Case
    Zalman Z12
    Cooling
    Antec Kuhler 920
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    MSI DS100 Interceptor
    Internet Speed
    50 down 5 up
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    Chrome, IE 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Logitech X-620 Speakers
Man I need to go back to school :). I think if memory servers me right ztruker is correct, those features came with the 8.1 update 1

Hmm... I thought I mentioned I installed the OS from an 8.1 disk...

This is installed from install disk I got a while back, and I know the disk is good, because it's the same disk that I used to install the original copy of 8.1

The disk I have is an actual 8.1 disk, with its own PID key.

Anyway this is why the issue was a bit baffling to me.

My point is I thought those features were already on the 8.1 disk, but it appears they were added after the release of the disk; this appears to have been part of the KB2919355 update I downloaded. Once that update was installed those features appeared.

As for ztruker's suggestion of restarting the PC, that was done because I actually thought that was the problem. Turns out it was a missing update.

Anyway all is good now.

Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built by me
    CPU
    Haswell i7-4770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire R9-280 Vapor X
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster ZXR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242W - 24 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 1000 G2
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Closed Loop Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    High Speed
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Norton Security
    Other Info
    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v
My point is I thought those features were already on the 8.1 disk

They are, there should be this version...

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional with Update 32/64-bit (English) - DreamSpark

However, you are only allowed 1 download AFAIK - so you may need to get a class-mate to get the integrated ISO for you.

Interesting that Windows 10 has been added.
 

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  • OS
    PC-DOS v1.0
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    IBM
    CPU
    Intel 8088, 4.77MHz
    Memory
    16K, 640K max
    Graphics Card(s)
    What's that?
    Sound Card
    Not quite
    Screen Resolution
    80 X 24 text
    Hard Drives
    dual 160KB 5.25-inch disk drives
My point is I thought those features were already on the 8.1 disk

They are, there should be this version...

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional with Update 32/64-bit (English) - DreamSpark

However, you are only allowed 1 download AFAIK - so you may need to get a class-mate to get the integrated ISO for you.

Interesting that Windows 10 has been added.

I'm sorry but you lost me here :confused:

With regards to DreamSparks downloads, yes, you limited to one copy per item. That said, I'm not sure what that had to do with my post? And the version that's currently there is the one I downloaded awhile back - Windows 8.1 Pro.

Perhaps you're saying there's another disk with more updates included? If so, it's not on DreamSpark.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built by me
    CPU
    Haswell i7-4770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire R9-280 Vapor X
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster ZXR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242W - 24 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 1000 G2
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Closed Loop Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    High Speed
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Norton Security
    Other Info
    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    PC-DOS v1.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    IBM
    CPU
    Intel 8088, 4.77MHz
    Memory
    16K, 640K max
    Graphics Card(s)
    What's that?
    Sound Card
    Not quite
    Screen Resolution
    80 X 24 text
    Hard Drives
    dual 160KB 5.25-inch disk drives
The point of all these recent appends is that those features are not in Windows 8.1, they were added when Update 1 is applied to Windows 8.1. The Windows 8.1 you have does not include Update 1, which you proved by not having the features you mentioned.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
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