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Windows 8 to go - on a USB stick

  1. #51


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The funny thing is that there is no 'All' parameter in the bcdboot command description. It is amazing that it worked for you. cmd is usually very fussy with invalid parameters.
    Sorry for the late reply.

    If you run it in VBox in a Win8 VM it should work without problems (worked here). My Win7 host didn't got it right neither.

    It's something that works ONLY in Win8. (As GMan talks about it in this posts here: Windows-To-Go won't go for me.)

    Cheers
    Hopachi

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  2. #52


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The funny thing is that there is no 'All' parameter in the bcdboot command description. It is amazing that it worked for you. cmd is usually very fussy with invalid parameters.
    Sorry for the late reply.

    If you run it in VBox in a Win8 VM it should work without problems (worked here). My Win7 host didn't got it right neither.

    It's something that works ONLY in Win8. (As GMan talks about it in this posts here: Windows-To-Go won't go for me.)

    Cheers
    Hopachi
    You are right indeed. /f All does pertain to the FW level. Looks like they introduced that in Win8 to differentiate between BIOS and UEFI - or like in this case to include All.
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  3. #53


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    RE: Performance discussion of Windows 8 on a stick.

    I can imagine that Win8 will perform reasonably well on a fast USB2 stick. But there is such a wide spread of USB2 performance capability that one has to really look how the measurements are. I used a relatively slow USB2 stick and the 'performance' was grinding me down. On the fast USB3 stick it was a real pleasure and the performance is comparable to a 5400RPM HDD. So there is a range.

    Here are the Atto measurements of my 32GB USB2 stick and my 16GB USB3 stick to show you what the range is. The focus should be on the 4K numbers because that is the predominant system blocksize. For further performance discussions it would be useful if you posted your Atto measurements along with your comments.

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  4. #54


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I also found this VERY helpful to counteract the fact that Windows 8 To Go will not let you install Windows updates or some software.
    How to Make Flash Drive a Local Disk | eHow.com
    This turns the flash drive from being detected by Windows as a removable drive into a local disk.
    But was this driver not only a 32 bit driver ? Have you tested it with Windows 8 To Go 64 bit ?

    Quote Originally Posted by pscowboy View Post
    I am with our esteemed WHS in declaring this system on a 2.0 stick AGONIZINGLY SLOW!!
    But I also have a USB 3.0 stick which is pretty slow.

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The focus should be on the 4K numbers because that is the predominant system blocksize.
    See my post from here - I have a USB 3.0 stick with a dramatically gap in 4 K blocks.
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  5. #55


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    W7 Home Premium 32bit


    That E-How tutorial by Ramya Hariharan works fine for changing the W8toGo key from removable to a local disk.
    But how does this help you to get updates into the key itself?

    What you've changed is the Disk Management setup in the pc the key is plugged into. You haven't changed the key to boot up as a local disk on the next go around.

    How do you get the tutorial driver changes into the key?
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  6. #56


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    See my post from here - I have a USB 3.0 stick with a dramatically gap in 4 K blocks.
    Right, those second Atto measurements sure look strange. I wonder what happened. The first measurements may be OK - although they are a bit slow for a USB3 stick. They are also strange at the bigger blocks.
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  7. #57


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    I have 'upgraded' my Win8 on the stick with the UEFI BCD.

    Originally I used bcdboot F:\windows /s F: command to install the BCD because I was installing Win8 on the stick from a Windows 7 system. It installed the Windows 7 BCD. That worked, but I was a bit annoyed because it took 60 seconds to boot and the shutdown was also slow. I also noticed an error flag in the Event Viewer - Event 100.

    I then decided to 'upgrade' my BCD in my Windows 8 system that runs in Virtual Box. I used this command: bcdboot F:\windows /s F: /f ALL - Note that the last 2 parameters (/f ALL) do not work in Windows 7 cmd. The upgrade went without a glitch and my boot time is now 38 seconds and the shutdown time (Event 200) is 14 seconds. That is more like it.

    If you want to know more about all that, read my little tut here:

    Windows 8 To Go - Setup on a USB Flash Drive or USB Disk
    Last edited by Brink; 29 Mar 2012 at 11:46. Reason: updated link
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  8. #58


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    Anybody got round the "Office Activation" problem when using Wintogo on a computer with different hardware. Windows itself is fine but Office detects new hardware and requests activation.

    I NEED office to run on this type of product. I have a MAK activation but it's a pain activating several times a week -- I'm sure MS might also query why I have used 30 activations or so even though its a MAK enterprise license.

    Adobe have a decent idea --you can temporarily TRANSFER license between computers while using another machine -- just start the application and say transfer license.

    Office should be able to work like that too.

    Not 100% foolproof but most people having a use for the Wintogo will certainly log on to the internet where Office can then check the licence and whether the machine its running on is the one transferred to.

    This should stop the multiple activation problem.

    Other products could have this problem too --enormously reducing the value of this product --if it's reduced to just a recovery tool then it doesn't buy me anything over what I already have.



    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #59


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    After installing Windows 8 on a USB2 and a USB3 stick, I also installed it on a USB attached disk. I thought I write this all up - for those of you who like an easy method to install Windows on a USB device.

    The description in a PDF document is stored on my Skydrive from where you can read it directly if you have a PDF add-in your browser or if you use Chrome. You can also download the PDF which is only 9 pages. Just click on it. For the rest see here:

    https://skydrive.live.com/?provision=1&ref=3&wa=wsignin1.0&sa=412485191\?cid=475a0a48ca6d4035#cid=475A0A48CA6D4035&id=475A0A48 CA6D4035%211779

    OR

    Windows 8 To Go - Setup on a USB Flash Drive or USB Disk
    Last edited by Brink; 29 Mar 2012 at 11:47. Reason: updated link
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  10. #60


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Anybody got round the "Office Activation" problem when using Wintogo on a computer with different hardware.
    I don't know if this helps - but give it a try with "NoRereg" registry key:
    Office 2003 & 2007 continually configure and set-up
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