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Lost my F8 Advanced Boot & System Recovery Options on Dual Boot

  1. #21


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You should see a loading bar - it is quite quick - but if it is 2 secs or less - then it is unlikely to be winre.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 22,582
    64-bit Windows 10


    Nope, I didn't get a loading bar. I'll have to get W8 loaded on a dedicated system tomorrow to play with it on it.
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  3. #23


    Posts : 154
    Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Once you get to the Troubleshoot option using the Startup Options Menu Shortcut, are you able to get to the Advanced Boot Options screen picking up below?

    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
    Yes I have all the choices shown in the tutorial, and it reboots to the F8 Advanced Boot Options if I choose that. Strangely it reboots as well to any of the individual choices like Command Line or System Restore. But I can't get directly to Advanced Boot Options via F8. F8 doesn't work at all on either of my Dual Boots - either with Win7 as System on my desktop here or Win8 changed to System on my laptop.

    However it appears from your Startup Options tutorial that F8 does work when there is no Dual Boot? I'm guessing it's because they're adding them into the Win8 Multi Boot GUI since it's in Boot Mode anyway and needs the choice of OS's to repair.

    Here's my Disk Mgmt FYI:

    Click image for larger version


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    @Greg,

    If you are not loading winre from F8 - post the output of

    bcdedit /enum all /v
    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.8250]
    (c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum all /v
    
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier              {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
    device                  partition=D:
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
    integrityservices       Enable
    default                 {15d91115-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    resumeobject            {15d91114-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    displayorder            {15d91115-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
                            {27f36fa1-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    toolsdisplayorder       {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
    timeout                 30
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {15d91115-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    recoverysequence        {15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    integrityservices       Enable
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice                partition=C:
    systemroot              \Windows
    resumeobject            {15d91114-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    device                  ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f
    6e\Winre.wim,{15d91117-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    displaymessage          Recovery
    osdevice                ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f
    6e\Winre.wim,{15d91117-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    winpe                   Yes
    custom:46000010         Yes
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {27f36fa1-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    device                  partition=D:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Win7 Ultimate Signature 32 bit
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    recoverysequence        {27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    osdevice                partition=D:
    systemroot              \Windows
    resumeobject            {27f36fa0-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    nx                      OptIn
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    device                  ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe4862356
    39\Winre.wim,{27f36fa3-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    osdevice                ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe4862356
    39\Winre.wim,{27f36fa3-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    winpe                   Yes
    custom:46000010         Yes
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {27f36fa6-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {27f36fa9-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {f5a6126d-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522e0}
    device                  ramdisk=[E:]\Recovery\f5a6126d-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522
    e0\Winre.wim,{f5a6126e-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522e0}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    displaymessage          Recovery
    displaymessageoverride  StartupRepair
    osdevice                ramdisk=[E:]\Recovery\f5a6126d-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522
    e0\Winre.wim,{f5a6126e-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522e0}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    winpe                   Yes
    custom:46000010         Yes
    
    Resume from Hibernate
    ---------------------
    identifier              {15d91114-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
    description             Windows Resume Application
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {1afa9c49-16ab-4a5c-901b-212802da9460}
    recoverysequence        {15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    filedevice              partition=C:
    filepath                \hiberfil.sys
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    pae                     Yes
    debugoptionenabled      No
    
    Resume from Hibernate
    ---------------------
    identifier              {27f36fa0-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    device                  partition=D:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
    description             Windows Resume Application
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {1afa9c49-16ab-4a5c-901b-212802da9460}
    filedevice              partition=D:
    filepath                \hiberfil.sys
    pae                     Yes
    debugoptionenabled      No
    
    Windows Memory Tester
    ---------------------
    identifier              {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
    device                  partition=D:
    path                    \boot\memtest.exe
    description             Windows Memory Diagnostic
    locale                  en-US
    inherit                 {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
    badmemoryaccess         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    
    EMS Settings
    ------------
    identifier              {0ce4991b-e6b3-4b16-b23c-5e0d9250e5d9}
    bootems                 No
    
    Debugger Settings
    -----------------
    identifier              {4636856e-540f-4170-a130-a84776f4c654}
    debugtype               Serial
    debugport               1
    baudrate                115200
    
    RAM Defects
    -----------
    identifier              {5189b25c-5558-4bf2-bca4-289b11bd29e2}
    
    Global Settings
    ---------------
    identifier              {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
    inherit                 {4636856e-540f-4170-a130-a84776f4c654}
                            {0ce4991b-e6b3-4b16-b23c-5e0d9250e5d9}
                            {5189b25c-5558-4bf2-bca4-289b11bd29e2}
    
    Boot Loader Settings
    --------------------
    identifier              {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    inherit                 {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
                            {7ff607e0-4395-11db-b0de-0800200c9a66}
    
    Hypervisor Settings
    -------------------
    identifier              {7ff607e0-4395-11db-b0de-0800200c9a66}
    hypervisordebugtype     Serial
    hypervisordebugport     1
    hypervisorbaudrate      115200
    
    Resume Loader Settings
    ----------------------
    identifier              {1afa9c49-16ab-4a5c-901b-212802da9460}
    inherit                 {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {15d91117-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e}
    description             Windows Recovery
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=D:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\15d91116-721e-11e1-bc0d-9d4becef2f6e\boot.sdi
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {27f36fa3-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    description             Ramdisk Options
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=D:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639\boot.sdi
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {f5a6126e-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522e0}
    description             Windows Recovery
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=E:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\f5a6126d-717d-11e1-8e4c-001bb9a522e0\boot.sdi
    
    C:\Windows\system32>
    Last edited by gregrocker; 20 Mar 2012 at 23:30.
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  4. #24


    Posts : 22,582
    64-bit Windows 10


    If you have Windows 8 set as the default OS to run at startup, then yeah you'll have to go through the new GUI to boot to the Advanced Boot Options screen.

    If you set Windows 7 as the default OS, then I believe you should be able to use F8 to go to the Windows 7 Advanced Boot Options screen.
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  5. #25


    Posts : 22,582
    64-bit Windows 10


    Well, after installing only Windows 8 CP on my system with the 350 MB "System Reserved" partition, it appears that F8 is gone. I only see the updated OPTION FOUR in the tutorial below if I either added Safe Mode to the Windows Boot Manager, or multi-boot say Windows 7 with Windows 8. Otherwise, I have to use either OPTION ONE or OPTION FIVE below to have the "Windows Startup Settings" option for "Advanced Boot Options".

    Startup Options Menu - Boot to in Windows 8


    Click image for larger version
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  6. #26


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Interesting.

    If I use the text based menu - I can highlight win8 entry, press f8 for advanced menu, select Repair My Compter - and win8 winre loads up.

    Maybe you have to switch to the text based menu for that.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 22,582
    64-bit Windows 10


    Yeah, you can do that if dual booting with Windows 7 and Windows 8, and have Windows 7 set as the default OS to run at startup to have the Windows 7 text based menus. It just seems that F8 is no longer available in the Windows 8 GUI based menus. This is another good reason to add W8 Safe Mode to the Windows Boot Manager to be able to have the full options (Option Four) at boot afterwards.

    It's strange that we're no longer able to use F8 with the Windows 8 system repair disc or recovery USB flash drive. Maybe in the next release.
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  8. #28


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    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    On Vista and later:

    On booting,
    F10 brings up the boot options editor ​(a minimal version of BCDEDIT).

    just type in /SAFEBOOT:MINIMAL which should start you in safe mode, /MININT should start the recovery environmentEdit Boot Options in Windows Vista
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  9. #29


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Greg - it might look like you have it enabled from the bcdedit output.

    But there is something missing:

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    device ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe4862356
    39\Winre.wim,{27f36fa3-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    path \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows Recovery Environment
    inherit {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    osdevice ramdisk=[D:]\Recovery\27f36fa2-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe4862356
    39\Winre.wim,{27f36fa3-775d-11e0-be4d-cbe486235639}
    systemroot \windows
    nx OptIn
    winpe Yes
    custom:46000010 Yes


    This one works:

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {448fb32f-73f0-11e1-8e2b-001966657855}
    device ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\448fb32f-73f0-11e1-8e2b-0019666578
    55\Winre.wim,{448fb330-73f0-11e1-8e2b-001966657855}
    path \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows Recovery Environment
    locale en-us
    inherit {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
    custom:15000065 3
    osdevice ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\448fb32f-73f0-11e1-8e2b-0019666578
    55\Winre.wim,{448fb330-73f0-11e1-8e2b-001966657855}
    systemroot \windows
    nx OptIn
    custom:250000c2 1
    winpe Yes
    custom:46000010 Yes

    Try:

    reagentc /enable
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