Solved Building a PC

rohidroid

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Hello,I am going to build my own PC.. (First Time)I'm not going to change the CPU Case.. just the things inside like Motherboard, Graphics Card etc..I want to keep the budget the most minimum possible..Just want to make sure what are the things that I should keep in mind..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core 3.00 GHz (Over-Clocked to 10 %)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5G41T-M LX
    Memory
    2 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GT 220 1GB DDR2
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 300 GB
    Seagate Expansion Drive 2 TB
    Seagate FreeAgent Go 250 GB
    Keyboard
    Logitech K100
    Mouse
    Lenovo N50
    Internet Speed
    1 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky PURE 3.0
Does this mean that you will keep the case but change the processor?
You should consider measures of your new compontents fitting in your case especially if you mount a big CPU cooler or graphics card. You should find these specs in the manual of your case or the website of the manufacturer. Same for the new components.
Also important is cooling. If you read a bit how cooling works you can build a silent system with semi-passive cooling technique which should be barely audible. I found this site helpfull building my own silent pc: silentpcreview.com | Everything about Silent / Quiet Computers

I know there is a lot of preparation, reading and pondering to be done to find the right components to fit your needs in terms of perfomance, quiteness and temperatures. But after you have done all steps wisely you can be proud of a self-built system which is fast as a shark and dead silent if you want.
And one of the good steps you've allready meade is to ask in a forum.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 32-Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 4670
    Motherboard
    AsRock z87m Pro4
    Memory
    4 GB 1600 12800U
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    HD Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD Samsung 840 Pro 128 GB
    2 TB WD Green
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro MII 420 W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio 650 Pure
    Cooling
    Semi passive: Thermalright Macho HR-02 Rev.A, Scythe Gentle Typhoon 800 rpm
Thanks for the reply

Does this mean that you will keep the case but change the processor?
You should consider measures of your new compontents fitting in your case especially if you mount a big CPU cooler or graphics card. You should find these specs in the manual of your case or the website of the manufacturer. Same for the new components.
Also important is cooling. If you read a bit how cooling works you can build a silent system with semi-passive cooling technique which should be barely audible. I found this site helpfull building my own silent pc: silentpcreview.com | Everything about Silent / Quiet Computers

I know there is a lot of preparation, reading and pondering to be done to find the right components to fit your needs in terms of perfomance, quiteness and temperatures. But after you have done all steps wisely you can be proud of a self-built system which is fast as a shark and dead silent if you want.
And one of the good steps you've allready meade is to ask in a forum.

So, what is so good about silent pc's ratherm than it being silent.. like if my priority is for performance could i get a better pc even if its not so silent?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core 3.00 GHz (Over-Clocked to 10 %)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5G41T-M LX
    Memory
    2 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GT 220 1GB DDR2
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 300 GB
    Seagate Expansion Drive 2 TB
    Seagate FreeAgent Go 250 GB
    Keyboard
    Logitech K100
    Mouse
    Lenovo N50
    Internet Speed
    1 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky PURE 3.0
Set your budget first, it's so easy to blow it sky high. Another thing is what's it is supposed to be for, office, graphics, video games etc. ? Those two things pretty much define what could and should be done.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Does this mean that you will keep the case but change the processor?
You should consider measures of your new compontents fitting in your case especially if you mount a big CPU cooler or graphics card. You should find these specs in the manual of your case or the website of the manufacturer. Same for the new components.
Also important is cooling. If you read a bit how cooling works you can build a silent system with semi-passive cooling technique which should be barely audible. I found this site helpfull building my own silent pc: silentpcreview.com | Everything about Silent / Quiet Computers

I know there is a lot of preparation, reading and pondering to be done to find the right components to fit your needs in terms of perfomance, quiteness and temperatures. But after you have done all steps wisely you can be proud of a self-built system which is fast as a shark and dead silent if you want.
And one of the good steps you've allready meade is to ask in a forum.

So, what is so good about silent pc's ratherm than it being silent.. like if my priority is for performance could i get a better pc even if its not so silent?

Hi there
Unless you are daily living in a noisy environment you will soon notice a noisy PC very quickly and believe me it can become really IRRITATING. Fortunately decent fans etc have modern bearings and can be quite quiet.

The main thing you'll need if designing / building your own PC is a decent processor -- if that's poor - just give up. Then the MOBO bus must be capable of delivering good performance

-- SLOW DISKS WILL KILL ANY SYSTEM. - It's amazing how often this simple fact is forgotten. People spend £££'s, $$$'s €€€€'s, Roubles, Kroners, Slotys. rupees etc etc on their machines and then have hideously slow 5400 RPM IDE HDD's. Get the OS at least to boot from an SSD and ensure also your MOBO has a decent performing USB3 port / ports too. USB3 add on cards are usually poor performers - especially if the native bus speed is poor.

depending on whether you want a "gaming" or a normal machine should decide wheter you need a separate graphics card -- iof you aren't a gamer the standard on board graphics for most mobos is perfectly good enough.

Finallly don't even THINK of putting less than 8GB RAM in it - get a mobo that can have 4 Memory slots (32 GB RAM) even if you don't fill them all up initially.

Remember though above all DO NOT EVEN THINK OF USING SLOW DISKS =- THJESE WILL KILL EVEN A TOP RANGE i7 SYSTEM.

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
Yes Jimbo you are right, it's almost idiomatic to use SSD today, 4 core processor with at least 8 GB Ram too. The rest, video card would depend mostly of weather it's for and which games and programs are supposed to run. Last but not least is to have adequate PSU to mach all that. There are other concerns too, like cooling for instance and ability to overclock to eventually prolong usefulness of the system.
All of that is closely related to the budget though, all the wishes and needs are in wain if you can't pay for it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Hi there.

My whole take on this project would be that if the DISKS are not going to be good anything else is a 100% waste of time. While SSD's are IMO mandatory if you are on a tight budget then you can still get some decent SATA spinners - but go for 7200 RPM WITH A LARGE CACHE -- the CACHE is important - a small cache will also inhibit the performance of the HDD.

If you are just going to use the HDD's from your EXISTING machine then I'd forget the whole project as you would be wasting your money. Use the OLD HDD's as EXTERNAL USB drives (converter cables are very cheap) and keep these for data archive and backup.

SSD's are the way to go - but if your budget is very constrained try to get at least the OS to run from an SSD. But DON'T even THINK of attempting the build until your Disks are decent -- otherwise you won't get much if any performance from your existing machine whatever else you install.

I'd say in my time over 90% of poor computer performance has been caused by very poor HDD's. - A typical machine with 8GB RAM can run quite a lot of concurrent applications even with a slowish processor - but ensure its fit for purpose.

Even an incredibly ancient machine can be speeded up no end by the simple swap of an SSD for an HDD.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
In the order I use when designing a new system.


  1. Motherboard. What processors does it take and how new is the architecture. Make sure you are not buying a design that is at it's end of life. They're a lot cheaper but you may not be able to upgrade other components later as newer processors come out. Make sure that the available slots match what you want to install. No reason to buy a SLI capable motherboard if you aren't ever going to use that functionality. The same goes for RAID. Check the number of memory slots to make sure it matches what memory you intend to buy. Buy new, not used.
  2. Memory is your next consideration. Buying a new mobo means you will probably need new memory because of the difference in architecture (mobo bus speed, etc). There's a lot of difference in memory and you can usually get a lot a better performance for a small increase in price. Buy large and fast enough modules as you can afford. Don't save money by buying more capacity and less performance, save money by buying 2 great sticks and add on more of the exact same type later. Pretty safe to go to Ebay for used ones. Just buy from a solidly rated buyer.
  3. Video card. Well, this could be a 10-page discussion, but again buy the best you can afford. Since you are on a budget, look back 1 or 2 model series for the best deal. If you are brave, go to Ebay for a used one.
  4. Power supply. Of course make sure it matches your mobo requirements, but also your video card. Buy a power supply with extra capacity so it's not running at close to full power under larger demands. Never buy a used one.
  5. Drives. Definitely get an SSD for your OS. Check the read and transfer rates. Do the research to understand the difference. Cheaper SSDs can be quite a bit slower than others. Of course, any SSD will seem blazingly fast to you, but just buy a good performing one. If you have the bucks, buy a least one large capacity (1tb or above). Make sure it's not a 'green' or 'blue' drive. That's what Western Digital calls their quiet or eco-friendly drives (translation -slow). I only use WD Blacks. They have a larger cache than the discount drives. You can save a few bucks on HDD buy buying OEM instead of retail which have less of a warranty (usually 3 instead of 5 years). Keep your old HDD (depends on what they are) for extra storage or backup. Use the new one for your games.

Memory and HDDs are the 2 places you can save money and upgrade to larger capacity later. If you saved a bit on the CPU, you can upgrade it later as well and then sell the old one on Ebay, offsetting your cost a bit. Of course that goes for video cards as well. Again, don't buy overly cheap stuff now because you won't be able to recoup any cost later.

Of course there will be a lot of different opinions about the path to do your upgrade, so just take everyone's advice with a grain of salt (including mine) and don't rush any purchase. The most important thing is to check all the specs and then recheck them again. Again, save money by buying the best quality you can afford and get more capacity later.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel I-7 860
    Motherboard
    Asus P7B
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 580
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer (Primary), Asus (secondary), Sony TV (third)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 128GB SSD Windows 8 Boot Drive
    WD Black 1 TB (2 ea)
    WD Red 3 TB
    WD Black 500GB
    Keyboard
    MS 1000
    Mouse
    MS Flip
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FIOS 35/35
    Browser
    IE 11, Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari
    Antivirus
    Windows 8 Defender (MS Security Essentials)
OldGuyGeek put it in the right order but :
With an SSD large enough (128 -250 GB) to hold OS and usual programs , even games, the rest of storage HDDs speeds are way back of importance, and using them instead of buying new "fast " ones is not necessary, money saved on that purchase is much better spent on a larger SSD. SSDs are so much faster than HDDs that difference between fast and slower HDD fades away. Yet, even slowes HDDs are fast enough to play music, movies and even run games from.
Chasing an super fast SSD is not too important either, even slowest ones (on paper) are so much faster than HDDs that in real life difference between fastest and slowest SSDs is not perceptible at all.
Memory, speed is not of large importance here unless OCing or benching, only two things you can see difference between let's say 1333, 1600 or even 1886, amount of memory on the other hand, can make huge difference with multitasking and running programs like graphics and to more extent video manipulating programs. Only other consideration for RAM speed would be if using an APU processor or on-board graphics that uses RAM instead of video memory.
Video card depends mostly of type of computer usage, for games as fast as possible, their memory VDDR5 1 GB over VDDR3 2 GB, any time. For mostly 2D work any old one will do, as even fastest ones run their GPU at 300 - 400 MHz when in 2D, just as the slower ones do.
CPU, more cores beat less cores at almost any speed nowadays in the era of multithreaded OSs and programs as well as multitasking. Some other considerations with CPUs is amount of cache on them as well as FPU speed or singlethreaded performance but those are dependent on the types of programs used and don't amount to much to overall system speed and responsiveness.
Some examples I experienced, AMD Phenom II x4 vs. Athlon II x4 at same frequencies, 8GB RAM, same MB, Phenom 1/3 faster in tests, twice faster compiling videos, twice faster working with archives, can't tell difference with internet, desktop, watching movies etc. Friends FX 8350 x8, 16 GB RAM, same SSD, eight times faster than Phenom at compiling same videos, blazeingly fast with archives (couldn't even time it when opening 4 GB archive) yet when working at mundane tasks like watching internet, movies etc you couldn't say if it was a 2 core 2GHz processor or some beast.
So much depends on what are you doing and using it for. That's why I always ask first, what do you need computer for and how much money you can or want to spend. One thing is I'm against is ready made machines, specially brand name ones. Some maybe cheaper (debatable) but are pain if you have to repair or upgrade. "What you see is what you gets" with them, throw and get a new one when this one pays it's dues.
So, rihidroid, if you answer those 2 things in red, we could start recommending in a meaningful manner. Otherwise everything will be just up to individual preferences.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
I mostly use my PC for gaming.. the max. budget I can put is 25000 Rs. If I buy a SSD of 128 GB.. how can I put my games, movies, music, other stuffs? (because its only 128 GB.. I have movies about 500 GB.. that I keep in external HDD) And... Thanks to everyone who have given me so much of info that I never knew of..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core 3.00 GHz (Over-Clocked to 10 %)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5G41T-M LX
    Memory
    2 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GT 220 1GB DDR2
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 300 GB
    Seagate Expansion Drive 2 TB
    Seagate FreeAgent Go 250 GB
    Keyboard
    Logitech K100
    Mouse
    Lenovo N50
    Internet Speed
    1 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky PURE 3.0
I mostly use my PC for gaming.. the max. budget I can put is 25000 Rs. If I buy a SSD of 128 GB.. how can I put my games, movies, music, other stuffs? (because its only 128 GB.. I have movies about 500 GB.. that I keep in external HDD) And... Thanks to everyone who have given me so much of info that I never knew of..
You don't need to keep all that stuff on SSD, just Windows, you can ad HDD you use for that now for the rest of stuff, most games and programs you can install on HDD and only small part will stay on SSD. You can experience some slower loading times (as compared to if they are whole on SSD) because of that but will still be faster than now.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
I don't consider an SSD to be mandatory. I have a core i7 box at work with 32GB of ram and about 6 7200RPM drives that I run virtual machine lab from. It's fine without an SSD.

If you can swing the SSD for the OS, great. But in the case of the machine above, an SSD for my OS wouldn't help a ton. And I cannot justify terabytes of SSD space for my storage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
I don't consider an SSD to be mandatory. I have a core i7 box at work with 32GB of ram and about 6 7200RPM drives that I run virtual machine lab from. It's fine without an SSD.

If you can swing the SSD for the OS, great. But in the case of the machine above, an SSD for my OS wouldn't help a ton. And I cannot justify terabytes of SSD space for my storage.
But it would be nice to have all that on SSDs, wouldn't it. Anyway, nobody is advocating spending thousands on SSDs, ONLY for OS and necessary programs. Parts of the OS always read and write something on the disk, most files being DLLs, reading small parts of registry etc. so disk access (100s of times faster than HDDs) and 4K files that can be read and written many at the same time is what makes everything snappier and running smooth, shuffling large files around, copying and storing them is a secondary mission that can be accomplished much cheaper using conventional HDDs.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Hi there

While the SSD isn't mandatory it's still worthwhile having one for the OS.

I'd still also say FAST DISKS are almost more important than anything else these days -- as a test get an old USB floppy disk unit and run EVERYTHING from that -- Slow disks will reduce even an i7 Core system to nothing more than a load of frustration to use.

If you guys want to put HDD's at the end of your priority of hardware - I just hope I never have to use any of your machines. As for memory I'd think that 4GB RAM would be a minimum as a given --it's cheap enough.

Onboard graphics and Sound are also certainly more than adequate unless your machine is 100% totally dedicated to gaming.

I'd still say again that decent HDD's are really MANDATORY for any sort of sensible system performance -- even if you are using a Netbook.

(I replaced some old clunker HDD's on an ageing PENTIUM IV machine recently -- with the OS on an SSD and three SATA 7200 large cache HDD's. It really does outperform some newer gear with slower HDD's. !!!). The machine could be fitted with 4GB RAM which I did too -- 2GB is just not enough either unless you just want to surf the net or do the odd email.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
I'd still also say FAST DISKS are almost more important than anything else these days -- as a test get an old USB floppy disk unit and run EVERYTHING from that -- Slow disks will reduce even an i7 Core system to nothing more than a load of frustration to use.
I really don't feel that disks are the #1 thing. If you are a gamer, your video card is going to be leaps and bounds more important than your hard drive. And I would say that if you have a computer with 2GB of RAM, getting 8GB of RAM into the system might be overall more beneficial than running a faster hard drive.

If you guys want to put HDD's at the end of your priority of hardware - I just hope I never have to use any of your machines.
if you had to sit down and use my Core i7 3770 running a handful of standard hard drives, I don't think you'd find it slow if it were booted up and running. Sure an SSD boots my boot speed and such, but this box doing usually boot more than once per month. But maybe it's tolerable as they are modern hard drives, with 64MB of Cache and all spin at 7,200RPM.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
But it would be nice to have all that on SSDs, wouldn't it.
Of course it would. I'd be most benefited by the dramatically increased # of IOP's. But these desktop machines aren't slow as molasses or horrible to use because of their standard mechanical drives. But my work laptop and my personal laptop and my wife's personal laptop are all running SSD's.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..
what's your thought about this rig? (good for a low end gamer?)

CPU:
AMD 3.7 Ghz FM2 A4-6300
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB
Storage: Kingston SV300S37A/60G
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (You Recommend)
Power Supply: (You Recommend)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core 3.00 GHz (Over-Clocked to 10 %)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5G41T-M LX
    Memory
    2 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GT 220 1GB DDR2
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 300 GB
    Seagate Expansion Drive 2 TB
    Seagate FreeAgent Go 250 GB
    Keyboard
    Logitech K100
    Mouse
    Lenovo N50
    Internet Speed
    1 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky PURE 3.0
So, what is so good about silent pc's ratherm than it being silent.. like if my priority is for performance could i get a better pc even if its not so silent?

Performance and silence aren't mutually exclusive, not even in a gaming machine. But silent systems need more planning in advance, especially when you want to build a gaming machine. I'm not trying to persuade for silent builds but I'm trying to give a hint of the possibility of that particularity. There are new graphic cards out there which stop their fan in idle for example. Power consumption is also something to look at, at least for me. A system which draws 100 Watts in idle wouldn't be acceptable for me.
But there are plenty of good new components to choose from. Since I'm not a solider on the gaming hardware front, I'm not trying to recommend much, but there are others who can.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 32-Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 4670
    Motherboard
    AsRock z87m Pro4
    Memory
    4 GB 1600 12800U
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    HD Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD Samsung 840 Pro 128 GB
    2 TB WD Green
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro MII 420 W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio 650 Pure
    Cooling
    Semi passive: Thermalright Macho HR-02 Rev.A, Scythe Gentle Typhoon 800 rpm
Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..
what's your thought about this rig? (good for a low end gamer?)

CPU:
AMD 3.7 Ghz FM2 A4-6300
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB
Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (You Recommend)
Power Supply: (You Recommend)[/QUOTE

No, not a war, just discussion.
As far as the "rig" is concerned.
You don't need an APU processor AND a discreet video card. AMD "A" processor already has GPU.
You'd be better of with FX 6350 processor. 6 cores and fast enough with good potential for OC. (3.9 GHz to start, can go turbo to 4.2 when SW demands it, 4.5 easily attainable)
That MB can't use FX6350
GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket AM3+ - GA-970A-DS3 (rev. 1.0)
8 GB of RAM because 1 GB per core is just about mandatory for nice use.
Video card, should be good enough for almost all the games, some with mid range settings.
60 GB SSD just too small, would not go under 120 GB, differenc2 in price is not big.
PSU, wait until you finalize main components, same goes for the case.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
OK.. then what about this? I think I may want to change more in order to cope up with the budget..
How is the SSD? I also have a doubt.. CAn I connect both SSD and HDD?
CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (You Recommend)
Power Supply: (You Recommend)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Dual-Core 3.00 GHz (Over-Clocked to 10 %)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P5G41T-M LX
    Memory
    2 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gainward GeForce GT 220 1GB DDR2
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 300 GB
    Seagate Expansion Drive 2 TB
    Seagate FreeAgent Go 250 GB
    Keyboard
    Logitech K100
    Mouse
    Lenovo N50
    Internet Speed
    1 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky PURE 3.0
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