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  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by rohidroid View Post
    I mostly use my PC for gaming.. the max. budget I can put is 25000 Rs. If I buy a SSD of 128 GB.. how can I put my games, movies, music, other stuffs? (because its only 128 GB.. I have movies about 500 GB.. that I keep in external HDD) And... Thanks to everyone who have given me so much of info that I never knew of..
    You don't need to keep all that stuff on SSD, just Windows, you can ad HDD you use for that now for the rest of stuff, most games and programs you can install on HDD and only small part will stay on SSD. You can experience some slower loading times (as compared to if they are whole on SSD) because of that but will still be faster than now.

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  2. #12


    I don't consider an SSD to be mandatory. I have a core i7 box at work with 32GB of ram and about 6 7200RPM drives that I run virtual machine lab from. It's fine without an SSD.

    If you can swing the SSD for the OS, great. But in the case of the machine above, an SSD for my OS wouldn't help a ton. And I cannot justify terabytes of SSD space for my storage.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I don't consider an SSD to be mandatory. I have a core i7 box at work with 32GB of ram and about 6 7200RPM drives that I run virtual machine lab from. It's fine without an SSD.

    If you can swing the SSD for the OS, great. But in the case of the machine above, an SSD for my OS wouldn't help a ton. And I cannot justify terabytes of SSD space for my storage.
    But it would be nice to have all that on SSDs, wouldn't it. Anyway, nobody is advocating spending thousands on SSDs, ONLY for OS and necessary programs. Parts of the OS always read and write something on the disk, most files being DLLs, reading small parts of registry etc. so disk access (100s of times faster than HDDs) and 4K files that can be read and written many at the same time is what makes everything snappier and running smooth, shuffling large files around, copying and storing them is a secondary mission that can be accomplished much cheaper using conventional HDDs.
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  4. #14


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    While the SSD isn't mandatory it's still worthwhile having one for the OS.

    I'd still also say FAST DISKS are almost more important than anything else these days -- as a test get an old USB floppy disk unit and run EVERYTHING from that -- Slow disks will reduce even an i7 Core system to nothing more than a load of frustration to use.

    If you guys want to put HDD's at the end of your priority of hardware - I just hope I never have to use any of your machines. As for memory I'd think that 4GB RAM would be a minimum as a given --it's cheap enough.

    Onboard graphics and Sound are also certainly more than adequate unless your machine is 100% totally dedicated to gaming.

    I'd still say again that decent HDD's are really MANDATORY for any sort of sensible system performance -- even if you are using a Netbook.

    (I replaced some old clunker HDD's on an ageing PENTIUM IV machine recently -- with the OS on an SSD and three SATA 7200 large cache HDD's. It really does outperform some newer gear with slower HDD's. !!!). The machine could be fitted with 4GB RAM which I did too -- 2GB is just not enough either unless you just want to surf the net or do the odd email.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    I'd still also say FAST DISKS are almost more important than anything else these days -- as a test get an old USB floppy disk unit and run EVERYTHING from that -- Slow disks will reduce even an i7 Core system to nothing more than a load of frustration to use.
    I really don't feel that disks are the #1 thing. If you are a gamer, your video card is going to be leaps and bounds more important than your hard drive. And I would say that if you have a computer with 2GB of RAM, getting 8GB of RAM into the system might be overall more beneficial than running a faster hard drive.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    If you guys want to put HDD's at the end of your priority of hardware - I just hope I never have to use any of your machines.
    if you had to sit down and use my Core i7 3770 running a handful of standard hard drives, I don't think you'd find it slow if it were booted up and running. Sure an SSD boots my boot speed and such, but this box doing usually boot more than once per month. But maybe it's tolerable as they are modern hard drives, with 64MB of Cache and all spin at 7,200RPM.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    But it would be nice to have all that on SSDs, wouldn't it.
    Of course it would. I'd be most benefited by the dramatically increased # of IOP's. But these desktop machines aren't slow as molasses or horrible to use because of their standard mechanical drives. But my work laptop and my personal laptop and my wife's personal laptop are all running SSD's.
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  7. #17


    India
    Posts : 50
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..
    what's your thought about this rig? (good for a low end gamer?)

    CPU:
    AMD 3.7 Ghz FM2 A4-6300
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2
    Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB
    Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
    Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
    Case: (You Recommend)
    Power Supply: (You Recommend)
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  8. #18


    Posts : 61
    Windows 8.1 32-Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by rohidroid View Post
    So, what is so good about silent pc's ratherm than it being silent.. like if my priority is for performance could i get a better pc even if its not so silent?
    Performance and silence aren't mutually exclusive, not even in a gaming machine. But silent systems need more planning in advance, especially when you want to build a gaming machine. I'm not trying to persuade for silent builds but I'm trying to give a hint of the possibility of that particularity. There are new graphic cards out there which stop their fan in idle for example. Power consumption is also something to look at, at least for me. A system which draws 100 Watts in idle wouldn't be acceptable for me.
    But there are plenty of good new components to choose from. Since I'm not a solider on the gaming hardware front, I'm not trying to recommend much, but there are others who can.
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  9. #19


    [QUOTE=rohidroid;391026]Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..
    what's your thought about this rig? (good for a low end gamer?)

    CPU:
    AMD 3.7 Ghz FM2 A4-6300
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2
    Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB
    Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
    Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
    Case: (You Recommend)
    Power Supply: (You Recommend)[/QUOTE

    No, not a war, just discussion.
    As far as the "rig" is concerned.
    You don't need an APU processor AND a discreet video card. AMD "A" processor already has GPU.
    You'd be better of with FX 6350 processor. 6 cores and fast enough with good potential for OC. (3.9 GHz to start, can go turbo to 4.2 when SW demands it, 4.5 easily attainable)
    That MB can't use FX6350
    GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket AM3+ - GA-970A-DS3 (rev. 1.0)
    8 GB of RAM because 1 GB per core is just about mandatory for nice use.
    Video card, should be good enough for almost all the games, some with mid range settings.
    60 GB SSD just too small, would not go under 120 GB, differenc2 in price is not big.
    PSU, wait until you finalize main components, same goes for the case.
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  10. #20


    India
    Posts : 50
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    OK.. then what about this? I think I may want to change more in order to cope up with the budget..
    How is the SSD? I also have a doubt.. CAn I connect both SSD and HDD?
    CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
    Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
    Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
    Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
    Case: (You Recommend)
    Power Supply: (You Recommend)
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